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What Flash should I buy ???

 
robbykh
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Jan 13, 2010 17:27 |  #1

Hello to everyone in this forum.

I am new to DSLR world. I got me a Rebel T1i for Christmas, it came with two lenses EF-S 18-55mm and 55-250mm. I am also learning how to use it, I have been reading alot in the DSLR forum and have gotten very good tips.

I'm in the market for a decent external flash for my Rebel, my budget is tight so I don't have alot of money to spend on a high end flash at the moment, besides I'm still in diapers and once I learn how to walk in the DSLR world I'll look into buying a better flash. There are two models out there that fit my tight budget: The Canon Speedlight 270EX and the Vivitar DF-383 Power Zoom AF Flash. To be honest with you guys, the more reviews I read about them the more I get confused.
Which one do you recommend?

I would appreciate your opinions.

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Jan 13, 2010 17:34 |  #2

With Rebel T1i I suggest you should get an used 430EX II not 270EX which is too small.


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Jan 13, 2010 17:39 |  #3

tancanon58 wrote in post #9387615 (external link)
With Rebel T1i I suggest you should get an used 430EX II not 270EX which is too small.

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The 430EX is a good flash to look into as well. About 180-200 used. A bit more than the ones you listed, but it's a small price to pay for the benefit of ETTL-II.


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Jan 13, 2010 17:44 |  #4

Not sure if Vivitar DF-383 supports ETTL or not, I'm with other posters above me, spend a little bit more money and get yourself either a 430EX or 430EXII.


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Jan 13, 2010 17:46 |  #5

Tawcan wrote in post #9387695 (external link)
Not sure if Vivitar DF-383 supports ETTL or not, I'm with other posters above me, spend a little bit more money and get yourself either a 430EX or 430EXII.

TTL. No ETTL.

A 430EX will be a more versatile flash. It'll save you the hassle of upgrading later, and you won't get a very good used price on a 270EX.


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Jan 13, 2010 17:50 |  #6

Honestly, I prefer the Metz line of flash units. I get better coverage for my money, and they allow updates.


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Jan 13, 2010 18:19 |  #7

honestly I prefer the Yongnuo line - the absolute best Chinese !

http://www.flickr.com …iscuss/72157622​975742543/ (external link)




  
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Jan 14, 2010 09:22 |  #8

I'm with those who say wait a bit and save for a 430EX/430EX II (new or used), instead of spending it now on a flash that won't be really what you need, then buying another one later. I use one and it's a great little flash unit.


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Jan 14, 2010 09:29 |  #9

Spend your beans on a 430EXII. The quality of that flash is excellent. This flash will suite virtually majority of your needs. I have preference to the 580exii due to the round dial instead of buttons aswell as more flash power and adaptability of an extra battery pack.

However the 430EXII is the absolute best bang for your buck. You hear very little issues with it compared to the bigger 580exII brother.


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Jan 14, 2010 09:33 |  #10

watt100 wrote in post #9387873 (external link)
honestly I prefer the Yongnuo line - the absolute best Chinese !

http://www.flickr.com …iscuss/72157622​975742543/ (external link)

Are you serious or joking? Can't tell as I'm looking into flash too


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Jan 14, 2010 11:11 |  #11

manofice wrote in post #9391395 (external link)
Are you serious or joking? Can't tell as I'm looking into flash too

I think he's serious. I use to have the 430exII and sold it. I now have the yn-460 and really think it is a good flash for the buck. Obviously the 430exII is a better unit, you just can't beat the low price of the Yongnuo units, JMO.




  
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Jan 14, 2010 11:18 |  #12

I will never buy a Vivitar product again. Back in the 80s I bought a Vivitar zoom for my Asahi Pentax; it was the worst lens I have ever used (note: I now have the 75-300, the Vivitar was much much worse). Recently I purchased a pair of Vivitar binoculars: absolute garbage.


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Jan 14, 2010 11:58 |  #13

manofice wrote in post #9391395 (external link)
Are you serious or joking? Can't tell as I'm looking into flash too

I'm serious! - but don't know if Yongnuo is the absolute "best" flash from China!
I've been using the ultra cheap YN460 for the past year, there is now a ETTL version out and other models. If you shoot a lot of flash pics requiring different set-ups that trigger off the main flash you might be better off with a Canon but for simple usage you can't go wrong with the YN462, YN460, YN465, etc. - do a search here or the strobist Flickr groups (YN-460, YN-465) The one I have (YN460) has 7 power levels, can also operate as an optical slave, has a slide out diffuser and white card, - pretty good for $40 !




  
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Jan 14, 2010 12:06 |  #14

watt100 wrote in post #9392253 (external link)
I'm serious! - but don't know if Yongnuo is the absolute "best" flash from China!
I've been using the ultra cheap YN460 for the past year, there is now a ETTL version out and other models. If you shoot a lot of flash pics requiring different set-ups that trigger off the main flash you might be better off with a Canon but for simple usage you can't go wrong with the YN462, YN460, YN465, etc. - do a search here or the strobist Flickr groups (YN-460, YN-465) The one I have (YN460) has 7 power levels, can also operate as an optical slave, has a slide out diffuser and white card, - pretty good for $40 !

I was looking at the 430EX II but the price difference and what I will use it for.. this looks like a better option.

What would be a good model for my XSi that would benefit me more than the standard built in flash by Yongnuo. How does this flash work? Does it disable the internal flash and use this instead and when I choose to make it flash it uses the external flash automatically or is do I have to trigger the flash manually? I'm not pro by any means but think I could benefit from a external flash. I also wouldn't need to slave any other flashes


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Jan 14, 2010 12:43 |  #15

Agree with others that a 430 EXII would be great flash. It has the E-TTL feature which will dial in the flash for you. It bounces nicely due to the flash head that can be manipulated. It also does well outside on the camera in fill-flash situations.

Definitely versatile and used should be a great bang-for-the-buck tool for you. Still have mine and it works like a charm!

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