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Canon 15-85 vs Tamron 17-50 VC AGAIN;)

 
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Jan 21, 2010 18:00 |  #121

DaveSt wrote in post #9442731 (external link)
I could just as easily compare my Sigma 30mm to the Tamron 17-50 (non VC). They are about the same money (in the US at least), but the Sigma kills the Tamron in speed, not to mention the focus system and build. Still, price is all they have in common so the comparison is just as silly.

Yeah, but the Tamron kills the Sigma in the 17-29 & 31-50 range. :lol:


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Jan 21, 2010 18:01 |  #122

lazer-jock wrote in post #9443090 (external link)
Yeah, but the Tamron kills the Sigma in the 17-29 & 31-50 range. :lol:

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Jan 21, 2010 18:12 |  #123

jonneymendoza wrote in post #9442170 (external link)
Even the Tamron VC is cheaper. The 15-85 is still £200 more here in teh uk. You do know that their is people living outside of the USA right? it maybe cheaper in America but not in other countries.

Well aware of that and the Folks living here in the U.S. dont have any control over the current exchange rates and other reasons that may affect the disparity in prices. The current exchange rate today should list the 15-85mm at 445.392 GBP which equals the $720 price here so other factors unknown to me are creating the discrepancy. [Price Gouging ?]

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Any lens that has USM will be more expensive regardless of where it is sold worldwide. IS & USM are both added features the Tamron 17-50 non-vc dont have. The Tamron VC dont have USM. These added features is the reason.

If you cant understand the above maybe you can complain directly to Canon and they will lower their prices and we will all benefit ! ;)

Regards & Hope you find something to satisfy your pocketbook! :D


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Jan 21, 2010 18:30 |  #124

lazer-jock wrote in post #9443090 (external link)
Yeah, but the Tamron kills the Sigma in the 17-29 & 31-50 range. :lol:

Exactly! You just made my point. It is a silly argument. The same can be said in comparing the 15-85 to the 17-50. Different ranges, different speeds, different needs.


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Jan 21, 2010 18:33 as a reply to  @ Silverfox1's post |  #125

Uk is expensive, parts of europe are even worse. I got the 7D+15-85 kit though from UK, the lens worked out around 450 pounds that way ;) iirc that kit isnt available in the US & Canada though..


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Jan 21, 2010 19:17 |  #126

oRGie wrote in post #9443306 (external link)
Uk is expensive, parts of europe are even worse. I got the 7D+15-85 kit though from UK, the lens worked out around 450 pounds that way ;) iirc that kit isnt available in the US & Canada though..

At 450 pounds thats about equal to the U.S. cost.

I wonder if the import tariffs are extremely high in the UK versus the U.S. causing the substantial cost increase ?

I can definitely see why folks would be upset !

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Jan 21, 2010 19:27 as a reply to  @ Silverfox1's post |  #127

Lots of reasons, higher sales tax, sales tax generally allways included in quoted prices, smaller market, higher import duties, exchange rates, general rip off britain etc... We can import from US and places like HK but if you get stuck with import duties and sales tax and shipping costs there is no benefit and warranty/returns etc are a pain..


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Jan 22, 2010 00:52 |  #128

Silverfox1 wrote in post #9443559 (external link)
At 450 pounds thats about equal to the U.S. cost.

I wonder if the import tariffs are extremely high in the UK versus the U.S. causing the substantial cost increase ?

I can definitely see why folks would be upset !

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Jan 22, 2010 01:16 |  #129

@KenjiS - If you are carrying a messenger bag with a $1200-1500 one lens+body combo why not get a far more compact superzoom?

If I were to put my gear in a messenger bag, I'd definitely get a padded insert to hold the camera and extra lens and flash (in my case).

As far as changing lenses go, I've learned to do the change in the bag or right over the open bag so as if I drop anything, it goes in the bag. If you're changing it in a high traffic area, you'll have to weigh the risk of getting bumped or moving to a safer area and risk losing "the shot".

For comparison - I carry my gear with me on a daily basis, but I carry it in a camera backpack with a day section on top for non-camera stuff. But if I wasn't in the mood to carry the camera backpack I carry a compact point and shoot in my pocket or a small camera bag.

Still, it's your personal choice in carrying a single lens+body, but I don't think that you are stuck leaving them unpadded or protected as there are inserts out there...

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And you're -still- not getting the point mate, This is not a camera bag, this is my messanger bag, there are no compartments padding or anything or any place for me to put a second lens in there, at least not and have it protected in any way, and that still entails having to switch a lens which in that mall would likely have gotten something broken [And I know this because this almost happened to me about 20 times when i had the 10-20/28-75 combo, which is specifically why i do not want to use 2 lenses for this usage!] you cant just set a lens in it or anything while changing lenses very easily....its basically a 1 Camera, 1 lens bag, thats it...

I dont carry my main camera bag unless im going specifically for photography purposes because its big clunky unwieldy uncomfortable and i just dont like it...it also doesnt fit my stuff right...I havnt replaced it because I cant find anything better locally and ordering something like that blind just doesnt work for me...

Moving back to the messanger bag, even a 55-250 wont really fit in there too well, I could only put a second lens in there safely if it were something quite small, ie, a 50 prime, and then id likely just slip it in my pocket instead...I've tried it in the past with my 30D and i did not like it because things were rubbing together and rolling around in the bag...

And still, missing the point to the other people, Sometimes you cant, wont, or its rediculously stupid to carry 2 lenses when 1 will do the job fine, if you want to be anal then why stop at only getting a 17-50 and a 55-250?


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Jan 22, 2010 04:16 |  #130

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I bet if you look hard enough, you'll find a thread somewhere with "watt100" and "jonneymendoza" telling everyone that their 450D's have a better price/performance rating than the 7D, AND that the 450D has better Image Quality too.

Of course both of them have probably never used, or even held, a 15-85 or 7D...... ;)

Lol and if you want a bigger laugh than that, just head over to the Pentax forum and listen to everybody claim that their Kx is a better and has better IQ than the 7D.


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Jan 22, 2010 04:51 |  #131

SpartanWarrior wrote in post #9445925 (external link)
Lol and if you want a bigger laugh than that, just head over to the Pentax forum and listen to everybody claim that their Kx is a better and has better IQ than the 7D.

if you want an even bigger laugh than that go over to Nikon Cafe and listen to everybody claim their Nikon D90 has better IQ and ISO performance than a Canon 7D !
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Jan 22, 2010 13:03 |  #132

this thread has gotten way outta control...opinions are what they are...just opinions regarding certain lenses...why is this even going on any further...there is no perfect lens at any given price point or focal length...let it be a nifty fifty or a 50L or kit lens and a 17-55...i just want to see more samples of the 15-85!


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Jan 22, 2010 13:11 as a reply to  @ eg6turbo's post |  #133

I am selling my Canon 18-200 IS and had intentions on purchasing the Tamron with VC. Some of the recent pics have me rethinking. The Canon 15-85mm IS looks nice, but I really wanted a faster lens. Also the 15mm short end would overlap my Tokina 12-24mm way too much. I had planned on getting the Canon 55-250 IS to fill out the telephoto range. Now what to do? I'm confused.....


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Jan 22, 2010 13:16 |  #134

15-24mm is not that much overlap. It just means you won't have to change lenses as often.


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Jan 22, 2010 13:23 as a reply to  @ msowsun's post |  #135

But my thought is that I wouldn't used the Tokina that often. Maybe I can trade it for a Sigma 10-20mm. Even though the Tokina is regarded as a better lens, getting the 10mm on the wide end would help justify keeping an UWA zoom. What do you think about that idea?


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