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50mm: 1.8, 1.4

 
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Jan 23, 2010 12:37 |  #1

Already own the 50/1.8 and thinking of purchasing the 1.4. I'm questioning if it's worth it or not. I've been really happy with my nifty fifty, I just hate how it dies on me after using it for a while in low light situations (will not AF for me). will the 1.4 do the same?

I'm hoping the 1.4 will give me sharper images. But if it ends up that it's not worth buying, I may just go for a 35/2, to get a different focal length.


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Jan 23, 2010 12:54 |  #2

I started with 1.8, then upgraded to 1.4. Then the AF motor died and the estimate to repair it was $240. So I went back to 1.8.

The 1.4 has faster, quieter AF and better build and bokeh, but the AF motor issue is quite common.

I also have the 35/2 and tend to use that more because it's the 50mm equiv on FF. The build quality better than the 50/1.8.


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Jan 23, 2010 13:30 |  #3

Not sure if I wanna deal with those AF issues on the 1.4 that I keep seeing! maybe just go 35/2!


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Jan 23, 2010 13:41 |  #4

My Canon f/1.8 died yesterday (after 8 years of good service), so after a bunch of research today I ordered the Sigma 50mm f/1.4. Its a bit pricier than the Canon 1.4 as well as heavier too, but it reviews very well.


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Jan 23, 2010 14:13 |  #5

Hobbes330i wrote in post #9454691 (external link)
I started with 1.8, then upgraded to 1.4. Then the AF motor died and the estimate to repair it was $240. So I went back to 1.8.

The 1.4 has faster, quieter AF and better build and bokeh, but the AF motor issue is quite common.
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I did the same thing and have not had any AF issues yet. I see alot of that stuff, but also folks that don't have the issue don't post it. The AF is soooooo much better than the 50 1.8. I missed too many shots trying to find the focus with the 50 1.8.


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Jan 23, 2010 15:54 |  #6

50mm is a problem spot for Canon. The 1.8 II is optically great for the price, but is built like a McDonalds Happy Meal toy. The 1.4 is ok, but no ring USM, and problems with focusing motor breaking. The 1.2L is good, but too many people complain about focus issues with it, which is really tough to swallow for something so expensive. It's also big and heavy.

The Sigma seems fairly solid, but you hear all the complaints about Sigma QC and focusing issues. I would love to see Canon release a new 50/1.4 with a new optical design like Nikon just did. Basically the 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 are the same optical designs used since the 70s. Good designs, but an update would be nice, especially with full frame becoming so popular.


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Jan 23, 2010 16:47 |  #7

AllisonFaith wrote in post #9454627 (external link)
I'm hoping the 1.4 will give me sharper images.

From what I've seen, the f/1.8 and f/1.4 are about the same as far as "sharpness" goes, but it will definitely produce smoother bokeh because of the wider aperture and more blades...which alone is worth it imo :)




  
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Jan 23, 2010 17:09 |  #8

I had the 1.8 and upgraded it to sigma 1.4. Sigma have so much better af, it is sharper at 1.8-2.8 and it have great creamy bokeh. No way back 50/1.8!


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Jan 23, 2010 17:21 |  #9

Since you have the 50d with MFA get the Sigma. It's better than the Canon 1.8 and 1.4 IMO, as it has better bokeh, sharpness, contrast, etc.




  
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Jan 23, 2010 17:25 |  #10

laydros wrote in post #9455577 (external link)
The Sigma seems fairly solid, but you hear all the complaints about Sigma QC and focusing issues. I would love to see Canon release a new 50/1.4 with a new optical design like Nikon just did. Basically the 50/1.8 and 50/1.4 are the same optical designs used since the 70s. Good designs, but an update would be nice, especially with full frame becoming so popular.

That makes no sense. these lenses were made, as you say, when full frame is all they used! If anything, they would have to revise them for the high resolution APS-C cameras like the 7D.


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Jan 23, 2010 18:39 |  #11

In the centre at wide apertures, the 1.4 has slightly better contrast, until about f/2.8 or so... from there upwards they have a similar centre performance.

You should get more keepers with the 1.4 in low light because the AF is quicker and a lot more dependable than the shifty fifty. True the 1.4 is not ring-USM, and many here have complained of the AF burning out so I guess it'll burn out on mine some day, but it certainly works a lot better than the 1.8 at the moment.


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Jan 23, 2010 19:29 |  #12

Erik_L wrote in post #9456042 (external link)
That makes no sense. these lenses were made, as you say, when full frame is all they used! If anything, they would have to revise them for the high resolution APS-C cameras like the 7D.

I didn't state that very well. My point is that 50 is more important on FF, and since there were so few FF cameras out for a while, it wasn't a priority. Rebel and xxD buyers buy the cheapo 50/1.8, pros buy the expensive 50L, the 50/1.4 was kinda in no mans land. It is the only remaining non-ring USM lens left, but probably wasn't very popular for a while.


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Jan 23, 2010 20:11 |  #13

I have the 50/f1.8 and if I was buying another prime for a crop, I would go with the Sigma 30mm/f1.4


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Jan 23, 2010 20:23 |  #14

laydros wrote in post #9456693 (external link)
I didn't state that very well. My point is that 50 is more important on FF, and since there were so few FF cameras out for a while, it wasn't a priority..

Jason,, I believe you have this wrong.. Canon and Nikkor 50mm lens design goes back to the 1970s for shooting 35mm film which in all intents and purposes is full frame..


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Jan 23, 2010 21:37 |  #15

AllisonFaith wrote in post #9454871 (external link)
Not sure if I wanna deal with those AF issues on the 1.4 that I keep seeing! maybe just go 35/2!


To deal with horrible corner sharpness just like the 50mm f/1.4 and horrible build quality like the 50mm f/1.8? Skip both and get a Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or 50mm f/1.4.


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