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Suitable replacement for Nifty? Canon 60mm 2.8?

 
djglenn1337
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Jan 22, 2010 06:00 |  #1

Ok,

I love the results from my Nifty Fifty, however I find the AF to be slow, and the results sometimes to be inconsistent....

I know the logical choice is to get the 50mm 1.4 with USM, however would like the ability to shoot a few macro shots.

That leads me to look at the 60mm 2.8 lens, which seems to be a very good lens. From what I can gather its tack sharp wide open @ 2.8, is that that case?

The other options I guess is the Sigma 30mm / 50mm 1.4, however I see alot of reports of bad copies.

I dont have a fortune to spend, so cannot go dearer than the above mentioned lens.

Purpose? Portraits. I currently use the Nifty from 2.4-4 with my flash bouncing, and find I get good results.

The other options that I was looking at was the Sigma 18-50mm 2.8 or the Tamron 17-50 2.8, as they would offer the flexibility of zoom for kids portraits (as they move allot)

All opinions are welcome.

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Jan 22, 2010 07:06 |  #2

I don't think the 60 2.8 and 50 1.8 are a fair comparison. I mean, there is over a stop of light difference and are different lenses altogether. The Sigma 30 is awesome if you can find a good copy, so if you can go to the store and try all the copies they have before you buy it, you could do that. That's what a close friend did and now has a very sharp relatively cheap lens. Nifty is pretty good except for the autofocus, yes, but I'm not sure for how long you have been playing with it. After a while, i learned how to "help" it find focus. By the way, you have the exact same collection of gear as I had right before i sold it for what's in my signature.

50 is the lens I'm most sorry I don't have anymore, cos once you learn how to handle it and once you learn what 1.8 means and how shallow it can be, it starts producing results...


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Jan 22, 2010 07:10 |  #3

Have you read about the new Tamron 60/2 macro lens?


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Jan 22, 2010 07:22 |  #4

If shooting macro isn't the main reason you want to buy EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM Macro, you should go for non-macro prime. AF of that 60/2.8 is very fast for a macro lens, it could work well for you. But EF 50mm f/1.4 USM has other pros: wider aperture; FF compatible; uses same filter size like 18-55IS and 55-250IS (58mm). More on that, you can use a macro conversion lens even on your 50/1.8II to get some wonderful close ups, see for yourself...
http://www.juzaforum.c​om …iewtopic.php?f=​19&t=11285 (external link)
http://www.juzaforum.c​om …iewtopic.php?f=​19&t=11314 (external link)


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Jan 22, 2010 07:30 |  #5

I bought a 50mm 2.5 CM to replace my nifty. It's not as expensive as 60mm or 100mm, work well though the focus speed is a bit slow.


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Jan 22, 2010 07:30 |  #6

gasrocks wrote in post #9446367 (external link)
Have you read about the new Tamron 60/2 macro lens?

Yes, that 10 month old new tamron is very interesting short macro lens. I was waiting for some professional reviews almost a year and seems like nobody was interested in it. Photozone.de has a review of this lens for Nikon mount, could be interesting for OP to read it.
http://www.photozone.d​e …ts/481-tamron_60_20_nikon (external link)


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Jan 22, 2010 07:45 |  #7

I think the 60mm 2.8 makes a great replacement, as its a very sharp lens and you'll enjoy the macro. A much less expensive replacement would be the previously mentioned 50mm 2.5. This is a great little lens, and while not a full macro, you'll have some very close focusing options with it.

So far I haven't seen many shots that are very impressive with the Tamron wide open. They seem a little soft. I'd like to see more, as a 60mm at 2.0 is a nice combination!




  
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Jan 22, 2010 07:52 |  #8

i was in the same thought and decided to go with the 60mm macro (over 50 1.4).
AF is suitable for me, and it's ridiculously sharp wide open. bokeh is absolutely wonderful. and being 60mm on a crop means it can function as a portrait lens. also, shooting macro is quite fun even if you're not a dedicated macro shooter.

i just love this lens. i dont think you could go wrong either way, though. if you find yourself shooting more indoors, id' go with the 50 1.4 - but im quite happy with the 60 2.8 for everyday shooting.




  
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Jan 22, 2010 07:59 |  #9

If you generally shoot at F/2.8 or slower and it's mostly for kids/portraits/etc rather than macro, you may consider something like the Tamron 28-75 F/2.8. I've found that I'm not the only one who has replaced the nifty fifty with one, and I found 50mm not all that nice (I wanted wider for indoor snaps and longer for portraits).

The Tamron can also focus quite closely (1:4 or so I believe).




  
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Jan 25, 2010 01:26 as a reply to  @ phreeky's post |  #10

Thanks for the feedback guys.

I have chosen to go with the 60mm 2.8 macro due to finding a good used price. I will give it a try, and if it doesn't suit my needs then I can put it onto ebay.

This is the first time that I have bought a used lens, so am not sure as to what you guys would generally look for to make sure its 100%?

How would you generally test a new lens in your collection?

Thanks.


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Jan 25, 2010 05:35 |  #11

Read reviews to know the strong points and the characteristics of the new lens and test your own copy according to the information.


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Jan 25, 2010 08:45 |  #12

This may be pointless, but an alternative is the Sigma 50f2.8 macro. It is very sharp, has accurate focus, and has good contrast.
It is not fast, but it is an excellent lens.
The price is about the same as the Canon 50f2.5, but the Canon does not go to 1:1.
A good macro lens should have low geometric distortion, low color distortion, and good resolution - the Sigma has all of these characteristics.




  
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Jan 25, 2010 09:55 |  #13

djglenn1337 wrote in post #9465118 (external link)
This is the first time that I have bought a used lens, so am not sure as to what you guys would generally look for to make sure its 100%?

How would you generally test a new lens in your collection?

Thanks.

Just spend the first day or two shooting things you would normally shoot (i.e. not sharpness and focus charts) If shots look good, great, happy. If not, look and see if it is user error or bad lens. Most often user error.


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Jan 25, 2010 10:56 |  #14

Great, thanks alot.

I did look at the sigma alternative, however I read it wasnt sharp wide open, and didnt focus as quick as the Canon 60mm.

Hopefully I will get the lens (60mm 2.8 macro) on Wednesday.

My partner might see a 600% increase in me buying flowers for her/me... :-)


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Jan 25, 2010 11:06 |  #15

I have both the 50mm f/1.8 and 60mm USM f/2.8.

The 60mm f/2.8 is an awesome lens, but isn't really a replacement for the 50mm, the fov is quite different. As you can imagine as well, f/1.8 is much faster than f/2.8. With the f/1.8 I can take party pictures indoors without flash at ISO 800-1600, whereas that isn't possible with the f/2.8 usually - it's also a bit long.


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