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Canon 50 f1.4 or Sigma 50 f1.4 as a sports lens

 
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Jan 25, 2010 10:24 |  #1

So I'm now down to the point of wanting to get my own fast 50mm lens for under the basket, baseline type shots to be used on my 40D. I have read quite a bit, both good and bad about both these lenses. Both have their pluses and minuses.

The Canon is cheaper and lighter (I've found a Canon refurbished unit for $344 at a reputable source), but the Micro USM is suspect and some say the edges aren't all that sharp. I've test drove a rental version of this lens and wasn't at all happy with it shooting basketball. Was it me? Was it that it was a banged up, back focusing rental lens? Was it my lighting at the time? I liked the lens for non action shots as it seemed nice and sharp and the BG blur was amazing. But it's first job will be for sports.

The Sigma is much bigger and a bit heavier. People say it is extremely sharp, all the way out. But finding a sharp copy of one is the trick. Most have said that the lens needs to go back to Sigma to be calibrated before it's a good lens. PITA! I also don't know if it's HSM ring-type focus motor is up to the task of following and locking onto fast action in a middle school gym. It's also more expensive. A new one can be had for about $450 to $499.

Any advice on this one? Anyone use the Sigma 50mm f1.4 for sports?


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Jan 25, 2010 13:31 |  #2

There are some who use both, somewhere around here. I don't, but I can tell you that the motor in the Sigma isn't much faster since it has to move so much more glass.

Finding a sharp copy isn't the issue, finding one that focuses properly out-of-the-box is. Chances are you will have to send it to Sigma for calibration, if you choose to buy it.

I would go with an f/2.8 zoom instead, if possible. You'll probably have to spend more, though...the Tamron 17-50 and 28-75 aren't know for low light AF accuracy, and according to Pentax users the Tokina/Pentax 16-50 isn't very fast, which leaves the Sigma 18-50 as the only possibility under $900...but Digital-Picture says that's slow, too, so I guess you're stuck. So much for that.




  
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Jan 25, 2010 14:00 |  #3

I never used the 50 for under the basket but I'm sure you could. Between the two I'd probably steer towards the Sigma. Most everything is a tie but the Sigma has a bit better IQ. At the expense of sending it off for calibration? Sure, but I think it's worth it.


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Jan 25, 2010 14:33 |  #4

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I would go with an f/2.8 zoom instead, if possible. You'll probably have to spend more, though...the Tamron 17-50 and 28-75 aren't know for low light AF accuracy, and according to Pentax users the Tokina/Pentax 16-50 isn't very fast, which leaves the Sigma 18-50 as the only possibility under $900...but Digital-Picture says that's slow, too, so I guess you're stuck. So much for that.

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From what i remember when i owned one, it had better AF than the Tamron 28-75, its fairly snappy, just not quiet


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Jan 25, 2010 15:00 |  #5

The Sigma is better suited for non-moving subjects because it doesn't focus fast enough to shoot sporting events. In fact, it's not quite fast focusing enough to follow my 20 month old son. I wouldn't call it a slow focusing lens, just not quick enough for fast moving subjects. My Canon 24-70 is much faster and more suitable for tracking fast movements.




  
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Jan 25, 2010 17:20 |  #6

Interesting ideas folks. Thanks for the input. After looking at the Sigma 24-70 HSM version ($899 from B&H) that looks like a lens that would fit the bill and I would then have coverage from 10mm to 200mm in three lenses. (Tamron 10-24, Sigma 24-70 and Canon 70-200) Hmmmmm...
As much as I like the 28-80 USM I have, I should probably sell it off to help pay for it's replacement. It truely is a very sharp lens, just not fast enough.

I still like the idea of a fast prime in my bag, but maybe not for sports.

Am I heading down a path to Zoom Hell having mostly zoom lenses?


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Jan 25, 2010 23:41 |  #7

ChasWG wrote in post #9469559 (external link)
Interesting ideas folks. Thanks for the input. After looking at the Sigma 24-70 HSM version ($899 from B&H) that looks like a lens that would fit the bill and I would then have coverage from 10mm to 200mm in three lenses. (Tamron 10-24, Sigma 24-70 and Canon 70-200) Hmmmmm...
As much as I like the 28-80 USM I have, I should probably sell it off to help pay for it's replacement. It truely is a very sharp lens, just not fast enough.

I still like the idea of a fast prime in my bag, but maybe not for sports.

Am I heading down a path to Zoom Hell having mostly zoom lenses?

Nah you're not going to zoom hell, whatever works is what i say

Just to warn you you liekly wont get much for the 28-80 USM...


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Jan 25, 2010 23:51 |  #8

I can't vouch for the 50 but fwiw... I have used the Sigma 30mm on a 40D under the basket and been quite successful.
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Jan 26, 2010 12:29 |  #9

Trevor, how did you find the focus system on that lens? Was it fast enought to lock on and keep focus? Or was it more that it was a wide angle lens and everything was kind of always in focus?


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Jan 26, 2010 12:37 |  #10

Ive used the canon 50, and Idk if I would say the af is fast enough for sports.




  
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Jan 26, 2010 12:47 |  #11

I consider the Sigma to be a pretty fast-focusing lens, but I've never used it for sports. It snaps to focus just a bit slower than my 85/1.8, and that's considered a quick-focusing lens.



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Jan 26, 2010 12:54 |  #12

The Sigma 50mm will work just fine, i don't shoot sports but I do shoot my kids running around....I haven't read many good reviews on the new Sigma 24-70 for Canon...Most say it's still slow and the Brick has better, faster, more accuate AF....If you ARE gonna buy it, you might think about spending a few extra bucks and grabbing the Brick....Canon USM will be solid for sure.


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Jan 26, 2010 15:01 as a reply to  @ thatkatmat's post |  #13

I felt the Canon and its ancient AF design was too slow for my taste. I'd choose the more modern design.


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Jan 26, 2010 18:40 |  #14

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The Sigma 50mm will work just fine, i don't shoot sports but I do shoot my kids running around....I haven't read many good reviews on the new Sigma 24-70 for Canon...Most say it's still slow and the Brick has better, faster, more accuate AF....If you ARE gonna buy it, you might think about spending a few extra bucks and grabbing the Brick....Canon USM will be solid for sure.

I guess I'm a little lost as to what you're saying here. Which version of the Sigma 24-70 are you talking about. There is the standard f2.8 DG EX and then there's the f2.8 IF DG EX HSM version. (too many letters if you ask me :rolleyes: ) One goes for about $570 and the other goes for $899. The reviews I've read about the HSM version compair it to the Canon 24-70 f2.8L. That one I'm not sure of, but a lot of people say it's a truely wonderful lens.
Also, what is "the Brick?" I'm sure you are refering to a Canon lens, but I'm lost on that one.

Maybe I should just bite the bullet and buy a Canon 24-70 f2.8L. Then I would truely be happy, but if I could save a buck...


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Jan 26, 2010 19:47 |  #15

"The Brick" = Canon 24-70 2.8L


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