Hello 35L! goodbye 70-200 2.8L IS

AlphaChicken wrote in post #9509102
Someone posted earlier something along the lines of

I was merely pointing out how that statement is not true. "faster" refers to the size of the aperture at maximum. The ability to let in more light, by use of a wider aperture. That being available is what determines "faster." The fastness to which an image is exposed on the sensor.

4 Stop IS does make the lens more useful in low light, but it does not make it "faster" by any means.

I was never de-bunking the awesomeness of the lens.

I was just correcting a hastily made comment, which was inaccurate. And, if read by anyone whom did not know of IS's fallback of not stabilizing moving subjects, would be false information.

I was making a simple "footnote" per-se, to the statement I quoted in bold.

Again gaining one stop of light makes your camera/lens one stop faster than if you didn't gain that one stop. Whether its one stop more sensitivity (ISO 3200 to 6400), one more stop stutter speed 1 second to 2 seconds or one more stop f/2 to f 1.4. All of those examples show gaining one more stop of light. And again I never brought freezing motion into the conversation. I've only been talking about camera motion when hand holding To be able to hand hold consistently a 200mm lens at 1/25 of a second is amazing. Thats a 3 stops of light advantage in a real world example. You should probably hand hold a 200mm without IS at 1/200 of a second (to minimize camera motion) and 1/25 of a second is gaining 3 stops of light. 200 to 100 is one stop. 100 to 50 two stops and 50 to 25 is 3 stops and again I'm talking hand holding and camera movement but its real. I could never hand hold a 135L and get consistent results at 1/25 of a second.

airfrogusmc wrote in post #9510060
Again gaining one stop of light makes your camera/lens one stop faster than if you didn't gain that one stop. Whether its one stop more sensitivity (ISO 3200 to 6400), one more stop stutter speed 1 second to 2 seconds or one more stop f/2 to f 1.4. All of those examples show gaining one more stop of light. And again I never brought freezing motion into the conversation. I've only been talking about camera motion when hand holding To be able to hand hold consistently a 200mm lens at 1/25 of a second is amazing. Thats a 3 stops of light advantage in a real world example. You should probably hand hold a 200mm without IS at 1/200 of a second (to minimize camera motion) and 1/25 of a second is gaining 3 stops of light. 200 to 100 is one stop. 100 to 50 two stops and 50 to 25 is 3 stops and again I'm talking hand holding and camera movement but its real. I could never hand hold a 135L and get consistent results at 1/25 of a second.

It was someone else's comment, not you AFM, who said

"4 stops IS = 4 stops faster lens"

If you look at what faster means, that is completely incorrect. I hear what you are saying but you are missing my point.

Give it at REST already! sigh... the most important thing is the fact that i need this lens! Oh and this is marloon btw. I am just on my girlfriend's POTN account.

My thread is officially popular.

LOVE LOVE LOVE my 35L. I have a 70-200 2.8 IS, but I find that I can often use my 135L instead of it, so it really has been relegated to niche usage for me.

Some point in the near future, I will probably sell it for a 24 TS-E or 17TS-E.

The 35L is most often glued to my 5D2. It's the lens I leave on by default and often I won't bother to change it, because it just works.

still not missing the weight