Please post your kit lens photos from a 7D

I just received my 7D and the pics to my eye that I have taken seem a bit "soft" or "OOF" I don't have any examples to post as of yet, but I am looking for other shots so I can compare mine. I may need to micro-adjust, but I want to look at others first.
Any examples are much appreciated, and I will post some pics tomorrow when my main machine is up.

Thanks in advance for your help.

All pictures in the following albums are with the kit lens.

http://www.scottwillia​msgallery.com/gallery/​v/Zoo/

http://www.scottwillia​msgallery.com/gallery/​v/monster+trucks/

http://www.scottwillia​msgallery.com/gallery/​v/ATV+and+QUADS/

http://www.scottwillia​msgallery.com/gallery/​v/sacramento/

Thanks Scott, It looks like I am having some sort of issue, or at least I feel I am. I will put up examples later today when I get back from the office.

Ok, so here is one shot from yesterday, it is cropped in a little bit, and was taken in full auto mode only to avoid "user error" when figuring these out, I have also added sharpness and some color correction, but did not spend much time on it.. To me, they look a bit soft as Scott's seem to be quite a bit sharper. Is is me, or should I consider micro adjusting etc. I just don't want to start mucking around if the general consensus is that is is likely just the kit lens.

Thanks for taking the time to read and post your opinions..

Hi...I think the kit lens that comes with 7d are crap...have no idea why canon pair crappy kit lens with the 7d...But I have yet to verify this cause still using my 18-135 kit lens that came with my 7D...its especially soft like oof @18f3.5...I felt cheated by canon being a noob and not knowing that kit lens that came with 7d r crap

further research seems to support this... u can see here...

http://www.photozone.d​e …/478_canon_eos_​7d?start=8
high requirements towards lens quality for 7D <--!!!

http://www.photozone.d​e …anon_18135_3556​is?start=1
-At 18mm you should avoid the f/3.5 setting due to very pronounced corner softness.
-All-in-all it's not one of the more desirable lenses on the market and it's really surprising to see that this lens is bundled with the EOS 7D which is even more demanding in terms of required lens quality than the EOS 50D used for this test.

I will get a L version proper lens to pair it with my 7D and hope things will get better...will post some photo here as well with my new L lens...not 2 sure which L lens to get since have to get rid of that crappy 18-135 kit lens first...I'm not 2 sure about ur lens 28-135 I presume kit lens are all crap lol...the shot u post definitely have some oof issue, could be due to you slow shutter speed maybe try in on M...

in the meantime you might want to get a good L lens and see if your result improve...however u must know that I'm only hypothesizing that kit lens on a 7d produce low quality photo...I have no way of knowing for sure till I get a good L lens and shoot with it for a few days and then I'll know...hope you understand...

kaigraphy wrote in post #9566429
Hi...I think the kit lens that comes with 7d are crap...have no idea why canon pair crappy kit lens with the 7d...

couldn't agree more... i had the 28-135 fyi.

mule wrote in post #9565862
Ok, so here is one shot from yesterday, it is cropped in a little bit, and was taken in full auto mode only to avoid "user error" when figuring these out, I have also added sharpness and some color correction, but did not spend much time on it.. To me, they look a bit soft as Scott's seem to be quite a bit sharper. Is is me, or should I consider micro adjusting etc. I just don't want to start mucking around if the general consensus is that is is likely just the kit lens.

Thanks for taking the time to read and post your opinions..

definitely soft.

kaigraphy wrote in post #9566429
Hi...I think the kit lens that comes with 7d are crap...have no idea why canon pair crappy kit lens with the 7d...But I have yet to verify this cause still using my 18-135 kit lens that came with my 7D...its especially soft like oof @18f3.5...I felt cheated by canon being a noob and not knowing that kit lens that came with 7d r crap

He's got the 28-135, not the 18-135

Though truthfully, its not much better

@The OP, why a 7D if you have no glass? You'd have been better off with something a lot cheaper and some good glass to go with

What I see in that image is that the AF in full auto mode just did its job: focusing on the nearest subject with any decent detail. I think the hands, the fingers, her sleeves are sharper because they are more in focus due to being the nearest object in the frame. The image, especially the faces, is definitely soft, no doubt.
That's my thought.

How big of a crop is this?

KenjiS wrote in post #9566812
He's got the 28-135, not the 18-135

Though truthfully, its not much better

@The OP, why a 7D if you have no glass? You'd have been better off with something a lot cheaper and some good glass to go with

I know he got a 28-135...like you say its not much better...
as for y you ask him no good glass for a 7d...perhaps like me..being a first time dslr buyer I don't know canon would bundle such crappy kit lens with a 7d like the one I have...and maybe even his/hers...

gabebalazs wrote in post #9566859
What I see in that image is that the AF in full auto mode just did its job: focusing on the nearest subject with any decent detail. I think the hands, the fingers, her sleeves are sharper because they are more in focus due to being the nearest object in the frame. The image, especially the faces, is definitely soft, no doubt.
That's my thought.

How big of a crop is this?

maybe you right...thread starter should try a center point AF and post it up here again for evaluation...

kaigraphy wrote in post #9566902
maybe you right...thread starter should try a center point AF and post it up here again for evaluation...

The best way to figure this out is keep it on something like spot autofocus, probably on a tripod so you don't have to worry about movement, photograph something static and take a few shots for starters. Using the lens wide open will usually be soft-ish anyways so try something like f11.

I do agree with gabebalazs, her left sleeve to me looks like the focus area.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Once I am back to my main machine, I will post the shot out of camera.

The reason I bought the 7D before glass, because it was the body I wanted. I did not expect the lens to do miracles and I have done quite a bit of reading on here. I will certainly try the spot focusing, and that was next of my attempts. Long story short, I just wanted to see what other posters have done, and I did not want to spend hours troubleshooting just to find out it is strictly lens, not user error.

Upgraded glass will be coming down the road, I did not like the Rebels, they were not comfortable, I was origionally looking at a 50D, but when the 7D came out, that seemed the better choice for me to grow into for a good timeframe. It fits my hands well, and I liked the button layout.

Again, I appreciate all the feedback, and will post the uncropped pic tonight, and will do some spot AF and testing. I will update this thread just so I remember what I did

Thanks all, you are great :_)

Hi all, I don't want you to think I forgot about you, but instead of bugging you with the pic and all, it turns out to be a combo of issues, one was the focus point, and two was my post processing was off, once I played a bit more, I got it to look to what I felt was alot better. Thanks again for the time you all took to offer your opinions, it helped me determine I was not crazy LOL.

mule wrote in post #9610284
Hi all, I don't want you to think I forgot about you, but instead of bugging you with the pic and all, it turns out to be a combo of issues, one was the focus point, and two was my post processing was off, once I played a bit more, I got it to look to what I felt was alot better. Thanks again for the time you all took to offer your opinions, it helped me determine I was not crazy LOL.

The softness of that shot had nothing to do with your post-processing, unless you applied blur to the entire image.

AF point makes a bit more sense.