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Feb 18, 2010 12:50 as a reply to  @ post 9633813 |  #16

+1 for the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM. It's almost certainly the most useful walk-around lens for a 1.6x crop body.

The 24-70 and 24-105 are both great lenses, but will leave folks wanting on the wide end unless they are shot full-frame (or perhaps on a 1.3x crop body).


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Feb 18, 2010 12:56 |  #17

I recently tried three lenses on my 7D (24-105, 17-40, and 17-55). I ended up ordering the 17-55 as it best suited my photographic needs (unfortunately it does not fill my red ring needs, but oh well:) The 24 wasn't wide enough for indoor use/some landsacpes and the 40 wasn't quite long enough for a consistent stay on my camera use. The fact that the 17-55 is not weather sealed was almost a deal breaker, however, I never feel comfortable with any of my lenses/gear getting wet in the first place.

As far as IQ, they were all excellent on the 7D. Much better than the kit lens (28-135 or 18-55)


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Feb 18, 2010 13:58 |  #18

SMBPhotography wrote in post #9634182 (external link)
I will post some shots at a higher iso if I still have them. Looking at them on the computer screen was like looking at a newspaper. 3200 was ok, and 2500 was acceptable.

Keep in mind that "acceptable" is highly subjective, and your opinion on the matter is worth no more or less than anyone else's. I've seen a few people shoot and sell at ISO 6400 with the 7D and even 50D so clearly it's working for them; personally I wouldn't take either above 1600 unless in some kind of low light crisis but that's just my take on it...


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Feb 18, 2010 15:09 as a reply to  @ pingflood's post |  #19

get the exposure right off the bat and the iso 6400 on the 7D is great to have in your arsenal, imho


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Feb 18, 2010 15:20 |  #20

SMBPhotography wrote in post #9628617 (external link)
6400 ISO is not acceptable nor good on the 7D. I tried shooting hockey at F4 with the raised ISO and it looked like sh*t. I sold the 70-200 F4 IS, lens and bought a 2.8 non IS.

3200 is about as high as you want to go.

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Define Acceptable or good?

For 100% crops? Okay. For realistic sized prints. Its fine.

SMBPhotography wrote in post #9634182 (external link)
I will post some shots at a higher iso if I still have them. Looking at them on the computer screen was like looking at a newspaper. 3200 was ok, and 2500 was acceptable.

pingflood wrote in post #9634674 (external link)
Keep in mind that "acceptable" is highly subjective, and your opinion on the matter is worth no more or less than anyone else's. I've seen a few people shoot and sell at ISO 6400 with the 7D and even 50D so clearly it's working for them; personally I wouldn't take either above 1600 unless in some kind of low light crisis but that's just my take on it...

bigarchi wrote in post #9635155 (external link)
get the exposure right off the bat and the iso 6400 on the 7D is great to have in your arsenal, imho

If you nail exposure, I think 6400 can look quite good on the 7D (for reasonably sized prints). Here's a link to some I shot at ISO6400:

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=819955

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dmp-potn wrote in post #9634252 (external link)
+1 for the EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM. It's almost certainly the most useful walk-around lens for a 1.6x crop body.

The 24-70 and 24-105 are both great lenses, but will leave folks wanting on the wide end unless they are shot full-frame (or perhaps on a 1.3x crop body).

I also agree with what's been said above. 17-55 is my go to on a 1.6x crop. 24mm isn't wide enough for me.


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Feb 18, 2010 17:42 as a reply to  @ BenJohnson's post |  #21

It's interesting how many people who've got there hands on a 7D only think in terms of buying L glass, even thought the 7D is still a crop sensor camera, and the standard zoom range offered by L's is more suited to full frame bodies. If I had a 7D I'd still go for the EF/EF-S zoom combo I've got now, namely the 17-55 and the 70-200. The 17-55 is easily a match for L glass, so it's not as if you end up with inconsistent quality across the range. I really don't think there is a better standard zoom on a crop body than the 17-55. ;)


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Feb 27, 2010 19:39 |  #22

Hey guys, I am pondering whether to get a 7D or 50D. I am upgrading from a Rebel XSI/450D and my only concern is Image quality and Noise control. I really dont give a damn about the video or 6.5 fps etc stuff. I am more intereste in high ISO because I want to get a Sigma 150-500 which requires fast shutter speed.

I shoot pretty much everything, mostly cites, landscapes and women.

For some reason I am inclined towards the 7D because I heard that 50D doesn't give me additional IQ compared to the XSI.
Also as a combo I am thinking about the 7D+24-105, since I already have Sigma 10-20.

Please let me know your ideas, I am in real dilemma since there'sa huge price difference between the 7D and 50D.




  
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Feb 27, 2010 22:18 |  #23

17-55mm is not a match for L glass sorry to say. The build, color, contrast is inferior to the 24-105mm. IMO its over priced for what you get.


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Feb 27, 2010 22:48 |  #24

I recently picked up the EF-S 17-55, and I must say i couldn't be happier with it on my 7D.




  
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Feb 27, 2010 23:35 |  #25

I've only owned my 17-55 for a couple of weeks, but so far, I'm very pleased with it. I agree, it is priced on the steep side for a non L lens, but I guess that's what it takes to get an f2.8 lens in this zoom range. For me, it was a choice between the 17-55 or spending several hundred dollars more to step up to the EF 16-35mm f2.8L II. Then I would still need a nifty fifty or something to cover the 50mm range. I just couldn't justify the extra expense right now.




  
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Feb 28, 2010 02:43 |  #26

I would definately get the 24-70. Its an amazin lens. The nicest shots i have taken where with this lens and i have tried alot of different ones. This is still my favortie lens i have used. Some of the shots i take with this lens look 3-D. I say go for it, u wont regret it.


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Feb 28, 2010 03:25 |  #27

wow I got exactly 0 responses




  
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Feb 28, 2010 03:41 |  #28

Nifkin wrote in post #9636028 (external link)
It's interesting how many people who've got there hands on a 7D only think in terms of buying L glass, even thought the 7D is still a crop sensor camera, and the standard zoom range offered by L's is more suited to full frame bodies. If I had a 7D I'd still go for the EF/EF-S zoom combo I've got now, namely the 17-55 and the 70-200. The 17-55 is easily a match for L glass, so it's not as if you end up with inconsistent quality across the range. I really don't think there is a better standard zoom on a crop body than the 17-55. ;)

Why would the zoom range of L glass be better suited to full frame? Doesn't that all depend on what you're shooting?! When i had my 450d with the kitlens i was usually shooting in the range of 24-55, why would'nt a L lens (like the 24-105) be a perfect match to my 7D?


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Feb 28, 2010 03:49 |  #29

I have a 7D and the Sigma 150-500 a great combo for what I shoot. The 15-85 deals with the rest of the stuff


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Feb 28, 2010 04:21 |  #30

WALLstBULL wrote in post #9696776 (external link)
Hey guys, I am pondering whether to get a 7D or 50D. I am upgrading from a Rebel XSI/450D and my only concern is Image quality and Noise control. I really dont give a damn about the video or 6.5 fps etc stuff. I am more intereste in high ISO because I want to get a Sigma 150-500 which requires fast shutter speed.

I shoot pretty much everything, mostly cites, landscapes and women.

For some reason I am inclined towards the 7D because I heard that 50D doesn't give me additional IQ compared to the XSI.
Also as a combo I am thinking about the 7D+24-105, since I already have Sigma 10-20.

Please let me know your ideas, I am in real dilemma since there's a huge price difference between the 7D and 50D.

The difference in IQ isn't extreme. 7D has maybe a stop better in high ISO and has more features. It's up to you to spend the money for the extra features...there are a lot of them.


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