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Need Help...Deciding on the Sigma 30 or the Canon 35 non L

 
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Mar 05, 2010 02:41 |  #16

If you don't plan on going Full Frame anytime soon, setlle for the Sigma. Otherwise the Canon is a nice little lens that will fit on FF bodies too !


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Mar 05, 2010 02:42 |  #17

Sigma. Just get it calibrated if you have issues. The 35/2 is a good lens all-around for APS-C, except for its terrible bokeh, but it's a very long standard lens and the Sigma can match or beat it in pretty much every category.

KCMO Al wrote in post #9731816 (external link)
It is interesting that people who state that the Sigma is better than the Canon "L" only own the Sigma. I only own the Canon 35L and can compare it to the several other "L's" in my collection (and my Leica old 35 f/1.4 Summilux). It is a spectacular lens. I doubt anything comparable can match it.

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Mar 05, 2010 04:24 as a reply to  @ toxic's post |  #18

Sdot85 wrote in post #9726012 (external link)
I am debating on weather to get the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 or the Canon 35mm f/2

Either is a good (great?) lens, but they are vastly different optics from a design standpoint, and that translates into different results. Bottom line though, that first stop is a doozy, and the Sigma makes shooting on a crop camera in low light bearable. The results are very, very good at f1.4

artyH wrote in post #9726817 (external link)
The 35f2 is a very sharp lens. If anything, it may be sharper than the Sigma 30f1.4.

Yes/No. In the center, there is no contesting the Sigma's brilliance, but near the edges the 35/2 outresolves the Sigma at equivalent stops. I find it interesting how the 35/2 performs on FF: the corners are pretty much DOA (a sudden fall from a cliff!), but the contrast and "pop" becomes very Sigma-like.

swidjaja wrote in post #9728412 (external link)
- Better IQ (saturation, contrast).

Not sure what you are seeing there... in my experience the 35L is pretty much the same as the Sigma in those two regards, until you throw in some back-lighting, when the 1998 era 35L goes to "wash-out city." The Sigma has digital-specific (design and) coatings, holding its contrast in all lighting environments (a knock against the 35/2 as well). That has come in handy more than once.

emitecaps wrote in post #9728824 (external link)
Sigmalux. It's sharper than the Canon 35mm at any given stop.

This is just not true. The 35/2 is significantly better at the edges stopped down, making large group pictures possible. Lower distortion makes landscapes easy as well, and frame consistency at f2 helps when edges are as important to your results as the center.

KCMO Al wrote in post #9731816 (external link)
It is interesting that people who state that the Sigma is better than the Canon "L" only own the Sigma.

Well why not? Once we find that out, we sell our 35L's, right? :p


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Mar 05, 2010 05:05 |  #19

emitecaps wrote in post #9728824 (external link)
Sigmalux. It's sharper than the Canon 35mm at any given stop. AF is faster and better contrast, bokeh, saturation. Consistent back or front focus issues can be pretty easily resolved but I also wonder how overstated they are. Many people focus and recompose and with the thin DOF it can make you think the lens is front or back focusing.

The Sigmalux is the Sigma 50 1.4... not sure if the Sigma 30 1.4 ahs a nick name...


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Mar 05, 2010 08:12 |  #20

I shoot a crop, and the Canon 35f2 is sharp corner-to-corner stopped down, with no distortion. Focus is fast and accurate.
It has closer focus than the Sigma and is less expensive and lighter.
The Sigma is faster.
http://www.slrgear.com …ct.php/product/​147/cat/10 (external link)
I especially like the small size and light weight - and find the close focus can be useful




  
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Mar 05, 2010 08:19 |  #21

artyH wrote in post #9733554 (external link)
I shoot a crop, and the Canon 35f2 is sharp corner-to-corner stopped down, with no distortion. Focus is fast and accurate.
It has closer focus than the Sigma and is less expensive and lighter.
The Sigma is faster.
http://www.slrgear.com …ct.php/product/​147/cat/10 (external link)
I especially like the small size and light weight - and find the close focus can be useful

I was just going to post the slrgear review. This positive review, sample pics, and $130 price savings pushed me to the Canon 35 f/2. I just ordered it yesterday along with the new EF-S 15-85 to replace my Tamron 17-50 f/2.8. I'm definitely looking foward to the new combo of lenses.


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Mar 05, 2010 09:03 |  #22

jdang307 wrote in post #9732748 (external link)
I would love to see some comparison shots on Full Frame. ;) :D

No seriously, I would. I wish they would make it FF compatible

FF will be real nice. After getting the Sigma I picked up a used 5d and now longing for 35L but no money.


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Mar 05, 2010 14:29 |  #23

bobbyz wrote in post #9733813 (external link)
FF will be real nice. After getting the Sigma I picked up a used 5d and now longing for 35L but no money.

Agreed. I just picked up a 35/2 for $200. To hold me over until, Canon updates the 35/2 (same optics in a 85mm/1.8 body would be great) or Sigma or other company makes a 30mm/1.4+ FF compatible.




  
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Mar 23, 2010 22:55 |  #24

I was going to buy the 35L but the price jumped up considerably last year from about $1200 to $1400 while the Sigma 30 went up from about $390 to $440, which is a pretty similar percentage increaase but still less in actual $.

The Canon 35 F2 is identical in size to the 50 F1.8 so it is tiny, but I was concerned about low light focusing, and it is only 1 stop faster than my EF-S 17-55 F2.8. So I decided to get the Sigma 30 and purchase some more lighting equipment and Kenko Extension tubes for the difference. I was willing to buy locally so I could test it out, but it was out of stock so I ordered online.

I was fortunate to get a good copy and now prefer to use it indoor more than the EF-S 17-55. I wish the MFD was closer and the hood sticks on better. I also get the impression that Canon's USM is better than Sigma's HSM.




  
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Mar 23, 2010 23:35 |  #25

ocjohn wrote in post #9858820 (external link)
I was going to buy the 35L but the price jumped up considerably last year from about $1200 to $1400 while the Sigma 30 went up from about $390 to $440, which is a pretty similar percentage increaase but still less in actual $.

The Canon 35 F2 is identical in size to the 50 F1.8 so it is tiny, but I was concerned about low light focusing, and it is only 1 stop faster than my EF-S 17-55 F2.8. So I decided to get the Sigma 30 and purchase some more lighting equipment and Kenko Extension tubes for the difference. I was willing to buy locally so I could test it out, but it was out of stock so I ordered online.

I was fortunate to get a good copy and now prefer to use it indoor more than the EF-S 17-55. I wish the MFD was closer and the hood sticks on better. I also get the impression that Canon's USM is better than Sigma's HSM.

Not really, they are about the same. Canon might be like 5% better... prolly even less than that. Keep in mind I am talking about ring USM. Either ring USM/HSM will kick the crap out of micromotor USM/HSM


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