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Jam.radonc
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Mar 08, 2010 04:30 |  #16

Before getting my 5DII my 17-40 is glued to the crop bodied 450D. It has provided me with many great pictures. The 24-70mm 2.8 is a great lens but I think would suit a full frame user more. It is sharper with larger apertures than the 17-40. Ah if only the 17-40 is a 2.8 but we are digressing.

I love my 17-40 on the crop. It is even better performer on a full frame for the "ultra wide angle" perspective should you migrate later on. For night photography a fast lens is a must. I would use a prime here. (insert prime choices... dependent on budget) Oh one more thing, the 17-40 is one of the cheapest most affordable L lens out there. Fast focusing and built like a tank. All in all a good solid investment.


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Mar 08, 2010 05:05 |  #17

Tee Why wrote in post #9750429 (external link)
If you are looking for an everyday "normal" zoom that is light and fast for a shallower dof, then I too would recommend the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8. It is smaller and lighter than the Canon 17-40L, sharper, and faster as well. It isn't built as well and the AF is noisier and may not focus as well in low light.

right, on a crop model the Tamron and Canon 17-50/55 will be sharper than the Canon 17-40L - www.photozone.de (external link)
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http://www.the-digital-picture.com …nsComp=100&Came​raComp=474 (external link)




  
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Mar 08, 2010 12:09 as a reply to  @ post 9750429 |  #18

Ok...not sure what you mean by getting a shallower DOF. I can still get good DOF as long as my focus point is right? I'm talking about landscapes where you want good DOF to infinity. So would a Canon 17-40 L or the Tamron 17-50 give me that? Basically something close (within a few feet) and to infinity? Also does the Tamron have problems with the vignetting? Or would that improve once I get a new camera?

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Mar 08, 2010 12:12 |  #19

Your use of "good DOF" is a bit confusing as most talk about DOF when they want shallow or thin DOF. Any lens can have deep DOF simply by using a small aperture, like f8-16. So really that should not be an issue for lens shopping.

Its sounding more and more like the 15-85 is your lens. Check that one out. It has excellent range, optics, focus speed and IS.


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Mar 08, 2010 13:25 as a reply to  @ tkbslc's post |  #20

Ok...that explains it. I will check the 15-85. Also should I worry about other non-canon lenses when it comes to shooting in the elements...snow, below freezing temps, and also I sometimes carry on recreational vehicles where you get a lot of vibration.

What would be the range difference with the 15-85 on my Rebel vs a full frame body camera? Just thinking about future camera purchase. Is this lens better than the 28-135?

I do understand the shallow DOF for portraits, wanting a low aperature number. That is why I got the 50mm, so now I want one that still has some focal length, but also will give me a MAX DOF when wanting to include a subject that is close (within 2 ft) so also wide angle. I still want a quality lens that can stand up to elements, give nice sharpness and color. I know I'm going to have to loose something as this would be a dream lens...unless I want to spend a fortune. Since I'm needing a new camera I'm hoping to find this everyday landscape lens under a $1000. I wasn't happy with the sharpness/color with my Canon 28-135. So something better, and not to heavy. I do have my 70-300 too.

Thanks again...sorry if I'm repeating myself.


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Mar 08, 2010 13:34 |  #21

The Tamron 17-50 is a killer lens. You can find these used generally for a pretty good deal.


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Mar 08, 2010 16:44 as a reply to  @ mritchy's post |  #22

So does anyone have opinion on whether I should get the Tamron 28-75 or Tamron 17-50. Either way I think I will get the Canon 28-135 fixed if possible. I do plan on getting a new Canon camera, so just now trying to see what the difference is between the Rebel models and the 30D
(D Models)and etc. Not sure what it means to get a full body vs the crop. I'm guessing with the Rebel you don't not get the entire portion with the wide angle lens? I do want better choices with ISO, and having problems with dust on sensor of my Rebel.

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Mar 08, 2010 17:11 |  #23

17-55mm IS.


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Mar 08, 2010 17:13 |  #24

krystal99 wrote in post #9754787 (external link)
So does anyone have opinion on whether I should get the Tamron 28-75 or Tamron 17-50. Either way I think I will get the Canon 28-135 fixed if possible. I do plan on getting a new Canon camera, so just now trying to see what the difference is between the Rebel models and the 30D
(D Models)and etc. Not sure what it means to get a full body vs the crop. I'm guessing with the Rebel you don't not get the entire portion with the wide angle lens? I do want better choices with ISO, and having problems with dust on sensor of my Rebel.

Thanks

Tamron 17-50 2.8 -
forget the 28-135 - it's less sharp than the Tamron or Canon 18-55IS kit lens, get the Canon 55-250IS instead
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Mar 08, 2010 18:03 |  #25

Tamron 17-50mm is meant to be a fast normal zoom for cropped sensors. The Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 is meant to be the same for full frame sensors. IMO, for most, a 17-50mm is a better more versatile range for cropped sensors, as it's wide enough for landscape/cityscape shots urban settings while long enough for tight shots like portraits to heashots. The 28-75 on a cropped sensor is generally not that wide and hence not as versatile for most. On a crop, it makes a good half body to a headshot zoom though. But not for landscapses and city scapes.


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Mar 08, 2010 21:06 as a reply to  @ Tee Why's post |  #26

The Sigma 17-70 was a great match to my XT. Good little lens.


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