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How to shoot close up flowers?

 
coffeeguy415
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Feb 04, 2009 00:41 |  #1

Hi All,

I am having difficult time shooting close up shot with flowers. The center of flower is not in focus. Here is my setup.

Canon EF 85mm F/1.8
Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Macro
Canon 580EX2
Tokina 12-24mm F/4

Questions:
1. Do I buy some type of ring to reduce the focal length?
2. Which lens should I use to shoot close up flower shots?


My setup in my bag.
Canon 400D XTI gripped / Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 / Canon 580EX2 / Canon 85mm F/1.8 / Tokina 12-24mm F/4 / Canon 70-200 F/2.8

  
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Feb 04, 2009 01:02 |  #2

Chances are that your problem is as simple as Depth-of-field........

Ensure that you are shooting Av or Manual and set your aperture using the DOF button..... What you see in the viewfinder is not the same as it will show up when the camera fires at your selected Av. (but you can see by pressing the DOF button)

or try shooting with the A-DEP setting and all the focusing lights that light will be within the same DOF (Av) setting.

Hmmm.. I don't really see a true macro lens on your selection..
This isn't a flower, but it is shot with the 100mm Canon Macro lens.

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Feb 04, 2009 01:44 |  #3

This is taken with a EF 100mm, body is a 40D. Distance from flower is about 2 feet. All shot at 100 ISO.

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Feb 04, 2009 02:39 as a reply to  @ yanchula81's post |  #4

Yanchula81,

Thank you for showing per example of how DOF works in such a close range. I now understand DOF in close range needs longer exposure.

Question:
1. Do I buy some type of ring to reduce the focal length?
2. Which lens should I use to shoot close up flower shots?

Canon EF 85mm F/1.8
Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Macro
Canon 580EX2
Tokina 12-24mm F/4

Can I use any of mine existing lens with a ring to take macro shots?


My setup in my bag.
Canon 400D XTI gripped / Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 / Canon 580EX2 / Canon 85mm F/1.8 / Tokina 12-24mm F/4 / Canon 70-200 F/2.8

  
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Feb 04, 2009 02:46 |  #5

Your 85mm is probably your best bet to use. The closest focusing distance on that is 2.8 feet. With a tube it will reduce that. I feel that a prime is a better lens for macro work. I have no expirence with the non-canon lenses. If I were you I'd try some Kenko tubes. Its worth a shot.


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Feb 04, 2009 15:02 |  #6

coffeeguy415 wrote in post #7250768 (external link)
Yanchula81,

Thank you for showing per example of how DOF works in such a close range. I now understand DOF in close range needs longer exposure.

Not necessarily.

coffeeguy415 wrote in post #7250768 (external link)
Can I use any of mine existing lens with a ring to take macro shots?

Yes to the lenses, not sure what ring you're wanting to add.

The biggest factors are distance & f/stop: Closer & wider f/stop = shallower DOF.

This was with your same 28-75mm @75mm 1/60sec f/4.0 ISO100

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Feb 06, 2009 06:38 |  #7

coffeeguy415 wrote in post #7250768 (external link)
Yanchula81,

Thank you for showing per example of how DOF works in such a close range. I now understand DOF in close range needs longer exposure.

Almost. You need to understand the relationship between apertures and DOF and apertures and exposure time. A wide aperture of f/2.8 will have a narrow depth of field while a smaller aperture of f/16 will have a greater depth of field. For a greater Depth of field in close range you need a smaller aperture which results in a longer exposure time because the smaller aperture lets through less light than the wider aperture.

Question:
1. Do I buy some type of ring to reduce the focal length?
2. Which lens should I use to shoot close up flower shots?

Canon EF 85mm F/1.8
Tamron 28-75mm F/2.8 Macro
Canon 580EX2
Tokina 12-24mm F/4

Can I use any of mine existing lens with a ring to take macro shots?

Your Tamron 28-75 as suggested above would be a good choice as it has a better close-focus range than the other lenses you have. Although it says "Macro" on the lens, it is not a "true" macro lens. Only prime lenses with the "Macro" designation are true macro lenses.

Here's a good link to help you work out depths of field: http://www.dofmaster.c​om/dofjs.html (external link)
Also look at the articles there for more info on the subject. :)


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Mar 11, 2010 17:02 |  #8

Digital art nature on macro at flowers

Try to understand the focal length/aperture/focus field relation.

Or just try with your lenses with a smaller aperture to have more focus field. For example, try f3.2 or f4.3 (this ones are still big, if you have enough light you can go further with high f values)

I have some good(I think) flower macro photos. But sometimes not all in focus, neither I want that sometimes.

This one is focused in the center but the upper top of the flower gets out of the photo, a shame:
Round yellow flower

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The next ones are focused on the center but the lower petals gets a little out of focus:
Multiple petals pink flower at sunset light:
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Purple flower with lots of petals between light and shadows:
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Mar 12, 2010 15:52 |  #9

Coffeeguy, no one has asked how you focus? Manual or Auto? What do you settings do you shoot on? Perhaps technique is a at issue here and not lenses but it is a wild guess.




  
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Mar 12, 2010 18:24 |  #10

Here's my try, using a Canon 20D,and Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L USM Lens


http://i737.photobucke​t.com …za/flowershotma​nually.jpg (external link)

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