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Replacement for bokeh?

 
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Mar 14, 2010 12:10 |  #1

Has anyone ever heard of FocalPoint by onOne? Its a plugin for pp software...

http://www.apple.com …/aperture/focal​point.html (external link)

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IMAGE: http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_01/section_workflow_basics/20080527_FocalPoint_10/JPEGS/FocalPoint_Start.jpg

after
IMAGE: http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_01/section_workflow_basics/20080527_FocalPoint_10/JPEGS/FocalPoint_Blur.jpg
IMAGE: http://www.outbackphoto.com/CONTENT_2007_01/section_workflow_basics/20080527_FocalPoint_10/JPEGS/FocalPoint_AfterFP.jpg

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Mar 14, 2010 12:11 |  #2

Hard to tell with the grid in the way!


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Mar 14, 2010 12:16 |  #3

It's easier just to use the right lense and technique then to spent endless time cleaning up a single image.


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Mar 14, 2010 12:26 as a reply to  @ blackhawk's post |  #4

It looks a lot like onOne FocalPoint (probably the same thing). I have used that and Alienskin Bokeh. Although it is always best to use the lens for natual bokeh, for those times when you need bokeh and didn't take the right shot, these can be useful. I have never thought they did as good a job as a natural bokeh, but it you tweak it right, they do a good job.


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Mar 14, 2010 13:00 |  #5

tom1s wrote in post #9794330 (external link)
It looks a lot like onOne FocalPoint (probably the same thing). I have used that and Alienskin Bokeh. Although it is always best to use the lens for natual bokeh, for those times when you need bokeh and didn't take the right shot, these can be useful. I have never thought they did as good a job as a natural bokeh, but it you tweak it right, they do a good job.

Looks like?

It IS by onOne.

The link claims it's a demo, but I'm not sure what the plugin costs. Or is it a demo for an entire plugin suite?

It's most likely not 64-bit, either.




  
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Mar 14, 2010 13:03 |  #6

Not sure what it does for bokeh but if you simply want to make the background be more blurry then gaussian blur (or agressive noise reduction) and a layer mask will take care of that easily enough.


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Mar 15, 2010 13:23 |  #7

Gaussian blur will look fake in most cases. (Then again: So does the above example)
Lens blur might work okay-ish.


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Mar 15, 2010 13:29 |  #8

In the example posted, it doesn't look like it allows for very precise selection of subject/background separation. Part of the ground squirrel looks more blurry after this process than it did before (the lower sides of the squirrel). Furthermore, the background immediately around the squirrel's head does not look like it was affected as much as the rest of the background was. Just like with aggresive noise reduction, I think that for this to be applied effectively you need to spend quite a bit of time selecting just just the background (between every hair, feather, etc) for it to do a good job. From the example posted, I'm not sure that the program allows for that kind of precise selection.


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Mar 15, 2010 17:18 |  #9

Both Bokeh from Alien Skin and Focalpoint are very similar to the native Lens Blur in Photoshop.

The downside of Lens Blur is the blooming of highlights, there is very little control over it, and its very very slow.

I have tried both demo versions, and I think I will get the Focalpoint. I could not get a smooth selection to work in Bokeh. On the other hand Bokeh seems to have the ability show user mad patterns, like stars and hearts and stuff instead of the usual ring or donut formed shapes.

For better examples than in this post, go to http://www.alienskin.c​om/bokeh/examples.aspx (external link) for Bokeh and http://www.ononesoftwa​re.com/detail.php?prod​Line_id=35 (external link) for FocalPoint.


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