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Mar 17, 2010 17:38 |  #16

I hate getting my picture taken by people I don't know. That is why I am the one wearing the camera :)


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Mar 17, 2010 19:16 |  #17

You're absolutely right - that's about three car lengths, to get a better sense of distance.

In all honesty if I visited that area and he shot my picture once I'd probably ignore it, or perhaps engage him in friendly conversation and ask what he was doing. But if he was doing this day in and day out, with the regular folks in the area (as I get the impression from the article) then that can get downright annoying. He's not breaking any laws. But he's being rude and uncivil especially if people have asked him to stop.

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Where do you draw the line? 50 feet is no where near your face.


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Mar 17, 2010 19:50 |  #18

Ha, I wouldn't be surprised if I was somewhere in his photo stream. I lived in Burlington up until June of last year and worked on Church St...and after reading his statement I am going to have to agree with him, he really wasn't doing anything too out of control.


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Mar 17, 2010 19:55 |  #19

sapearl wrote in post #9817968 (external link)
You're absolutely right - that's about three car lengths, to get a better sense of distance.

In all honesty if I visited that area and he shot my picture once I'd probably ignore it, or perhaps engage him in friendly conversation and ask what he was doing. But if he was doing this day in and day out, with the regular folks in the area (as I get the impression from the article) then that can get downright annoying. He's not breaking any laws. But he's being rude and uncivil especially if people have asked him to stop.

Actually the other thread has a link to the article and his flickr page:
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=841970

Scott claims his troubles began on January 26 while he was shooting pictures outside the Burlington Town Center. As he tells it, a mall security guard came outside and told him that he wasn’t allowed to take pictures of the mall. Scott informed the guard that, in fact, it’s his constitutional right to take pictures on a public street, regardless of what’s in the background. The Burlington Town Center’s general manager later confirmed that the mall’s no-photography policy only applies to its interiors.

Shortly thereafter, Scott recalls, two Burlington cops questioned him about who he was, where he works and what he was doing there. “I said, ‘I’m not doing anything illegal. This is pretty much protected speech,’” he says.

But the following day, Scott reports, another Burlington cop showed up at his office and questioned him for 45 minutes. He claims that officer asked him what kind of pictures he takes, whether he photographs young children, and if he ever posts those pictures on the Internet. Scott told him that he occasionally takes pictures of families with children, and sometimes posts them on Flickr, a website for photography enthusiasts.

“He thought that was just despicable,” Scott notes.

About a month later, during a February snowstorm, Scott shot some pictures of a woman smoking a cigarette outside Uncommon Grounds on Church Street. Scott claims he was about 50 feet away when the woman, an employee of the coffeehouse, noticed his camera and asked him not to take her picture. Scott claims he backed off. But the woman also asked Scott to delete the pictures he’d already taken of her. He refused. The following Monday, March 1, a Burlington police officer again showed up at Scott’s workplace, and this time issued him a one-year universal trespass order that bans him from 67 establishments on the Church Street Marketplace. If Scott enters any of them, he could be arrested.

Also quoting from the article, it seems that he frequents that area. It could be on his going home route, or it's just close to his area. Especially if the area is well known as a nice place to take picture.

The biggest problem is people assume that they have the right to ask a photographer to remove the picture when it is actually within the photographer's right. I've heard some people (including coworkers) that think if they're the subject of the picture, they own it, so they have the right to ask someone to remove it.

Check out his Flickr page. I don't think that his pictures are creepy at all:
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/38261591@N06/pa​ge2/ (external link)

Also in reference to above quote from the article, the office assumed that taking and posting pictures of children on the internet is despicable. When people assume the worst, it just go against the foundation that one is innocent until proven guilty. So, if I had a bad month, didn't sleep well due to a recent breakup before and looked VERY CREEPY, I walk around the same area and stare at people, does that makes me dangerous person that should be barred?


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Mar 17, 2010 19:56 |  #20

I think some people might have been called "Creep", "Perv", etc when taking picture with zoom telephoto in a park. Even if the subject is their own children.


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