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Mar 23, 2010 18:05 |  #1

So I am currently shooting with an XTi and have my kit lens, 70-300, and a nifty fifty. I am starting to get small jobs here and there doing portraits for families and just did a school portrait job. I am thinking about upgrading to a used 40D or working towards a lens. My understanding though is that the picture quality is relatively similar with the XTi and 40D so I would be upgrading for more cosmetic and durability reasons. I only have a budget of about $650 right now and can get the 40D used for that price. Should I hold off on the body and buy more glass instead? If so what would be a reasonable lens to purchase to do that kind of portrait work?

Couldn't decide if this belongs in the camera or lens section:rolleyes:


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Mar 23, 2010 18:07 |  #2

Lens. Nothing wrong with a Xti.


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Mar 23, 2010 18:19 |  #3

themadman wrote in post #9857042 (external link)
Lens. Nothing wrong with a Xti.

So what lens would you recommend close to that price range or am I going to be saving for awhile?


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Mar 23, 2010 18:21 |  #4

Sure, lets see... portraits on a crop. You already have a nifty fifty, how do you like 50mm lenses? The Sigma 50mm 1.4 is excellent for around $450 new.

If you want longer, Canon 85 1.8 or maybe the 100mm f2?

If you want something wider, Sigma 30 1.4?


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Mar 23, 2010 18:26 |  #5

sigma 24-70 2.8
canon 28-70L
canon 24-70L
canon 24-105L

I don't personally like primes more than zooms when it comes to portraits. I like the flexibility. there are some situations where the prime is better, but i have found that most all port work goes well with a quality zoom and some off camera lighting.

You would look a lot more like a photog if you have a small camera with a nice lens versus a huge pro camera and a little meager kit lens (customer impression)

I think the XTi is plenty of camera. I made the most cash i have ever made behind my XT and L glass, actually.


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Mar 23, 2010 18:30 |  #6

85mm or 100mm will be pushing it indoors. you would need a special large sized room.

you will often shoot about 40-70mm on a crop camera in a standard sized room. There aren't too many situations where you will want to shoot a port at less than 35mm... There is a perspective distortion that makes people look fatter (camera adds 10 pounds)


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Mar 23, 2010 18:31 as a reply to  @ MikeMcL's post |  #7

I'll start looking at some of those lenses. That's the direction I was leaning towards I think after I started reading comparison reviews with the camera bodies. I have my monolights and backgrounds so I'm starting to "look" more official so eventually I'll get there, but I have to piece meal my gear unfortunately:(


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Mar 23, 2010 19:19 as a reply to  @ egraff13's post |  #8

Can't go wrong with good glass first.


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Mar 23, 2010 19:23 |  #9

Get a lens but make it a Canon lens, any other make on my 40D has never focussed exactly but I can fix that on my 50D with microadjust. Anyone else found this?


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Mar 23, 2010 20:01 |  #10

No.


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Mar 23, 2010 20:10 |  #11

MGiddings Photography wrote in post #9857468 (external link)
Get a lens but make it a Canon lens, any other make on my 40D has never focussed exactly but I can fix that on my 50D with microadjust. Anyone else found this?

I've used plenty non-Canon lenses on my bodies, neither of them have microadjust. sooo... No


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Mar 23, 2010 20:54 |  #12

themadman wrote in post #9857128 (external link)
Sure, lets see... portraits on a crop. You already have a nifty fifty, how do you like 50mm lenses? The Sigma 50mm 1.4 is excellent for around $450 new.

If you want longer, Canon 85 1.8 or maybe the 100mm f2?

If you want something wider, Sigma 30 1.4?

Sigma 50mm 1.4 for $450 new, where?


The 85mm would be a good head and shoulders portrait lens, but again it depends on what environment you are shooting in. I've seen studios that shoot at f8 or higher and thus don't bother with any primes because they feel zooms are equivalently sharp at that aperture. But like others in this thread I would focus on glass unless you have certain frustrations with that you believe the 40d can resolve.




  
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Mar 23, 2010 21:01 |  #13

emitecaps wrote in post #9858003 (external link)
Sigma 50mm 1.4 for $450 new, where?


The 85mm would be a good head and shoulders portrait lens, but again it depends on what environment you are shooting in. I've seen studios that shoot at f8 or higher and thus don't bother with any primes because they feel zooms are equivalently sharp at that aperture. But like others in this thread I would focus on glass unless you have certain frustrations with that you believe the 40d can resolve.

Abes of Maine was having a sale, I guess it ended recently, I aw it was actually under $450. On eBay, just buy it from an authorized dealer and save 8%, comes out to $460 or so.


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Mar 24, 2010 22:45 |  #14

I would go with a new lens. The sigma 30 f/1.4, $439, would be my first choice, but if you feel like the 30mm is to close to your 50mm then I would recommend the canon 85mm, if you want more of a reach.


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Mar 24, 2010 22:49 as a reply to  @ Sdot85's post |  #15

Lens for sure. I like primes for portraits.


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