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85L worth twice the Sigma 85?

 
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Feb 15, 2011 08:00 |  #1

if you can afford both, which one would you get? need help asap... ;)


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Feb 15, 2011 08:10 |  #2

Depends totally on you, what you need and what "worth" means. You perhaps can ask yourself if the Sigma 1.4 is worthy 2 times the value of a Canon 1.8 too.
The L has better build and goes to f/1.2.
The Sigma has faster AF and is half of the price.
Sharpness and bokeh wise, they are both splendid.
I ended up with the L and have no regrets, but the Sigma is a VERY VERY VERY close second IMHO. If you need the fast AF, the Sigma is a clearly winner, but the Canon going to f/1.2 was the deal breaker to me: I wanted every single ray of light I could gather. ;)


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Feb 15, 2011 08:11 |  #3

I could afford both and got the 85L without hesitation.This is mostly due to my frustrating experience with the Sigma 50mm 1.4 and its AF issues. There are many that have reported similar issues with the Sigma 85mm too.

So ask yourself, whats more important... price or missed shots?

If your not in a rush and have paitience, try to see if you can get a good copy of the Sigma. Then if it doesn't work out, get the 85L.
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If you need something in a pinch and want 99.99% reliability, get the 85L and don't look back.




  
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Feb 15, 2011 08:16 as a reply to  @ m.shalaby's post |  #4

Your signature says you have the Sigma 85 1.4

- i'm confused  ???




  
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Feb 15, 2011 08:20 |  #5

Its hard for me to say honestly

I would probubly have the 85L just because its the 85L, its magical, its special...and that little extra speed has to be nice sometimes...

Though i admit id likely give the Sigma a test drive first


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Feb 15, 2011 08:22 |  #6

Why would you want to own both?


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Feb 15, 2011 08:23 |  #7

yes, i have the Sigma right now. but a friend is insisting to buy it and pushing me to get the L. ;)

actually i have no complains on the sigma but there's still a better [?] lens...


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Feb 15, 2011 08:25 |  #8

I think if I was you, I'd get that 35 upgraded to 35L and stick with Sigma 85 for now ;)


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Feb 15, 2011 08:32 |  #9

yuriyo923 wrote in post #11846886 (external link)
I think if I was you, I'd get that 35 upgraded to 35L and stick with Sigma 85 for now ;)

actually i just sold the 35 f2 earlier today. add'l fund to get 85L is ever...;)


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Feb 15, 2011 08:35 |  #10

You must keep in mind that in the photo world (and many other worlds as well) to get good equipment may not cost a lot. To be better equipment will cost more but to get up to that last 1% at the top of the list is going to cost a whole bunch more. Not linear once you get near the top. And, I think each of us reacts to that differently.


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Feb 15, 2011 08:36 |  #11

engrmariano wrote in post #11846872 (external link)
yes, i have the Sigma right now. but a friend is insisting to buy it and pushing me to get the L. ;)

actually i have no complains on the sigma but there's still a better [?] lens...

oh no... sounds like you got the itch

the itch will only be satisfied with the 85L then. i suggest you get it right now. :)




  
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Feb 15, 2011 09:04 |  #12

I am debating the same thing right now... If I get my school tuition back from the government, I will have a nice $2,000-$2,500 check coming my way. So it is either the Sigma 85 new, or the 85L used. With my prior experience with Sigma, which is not bad, I did have some frustrations with its focus in low light. I don't care how slow it is, but I wish it was more reliable. I bought a f/1.4 lens for its low light capability, and the Sigma 30mm could not keep up with me. I am worried the Sigma 85mm would be similar in behavior :(

But the Canon is double the price... The only thing is, I can buy it used and play with it a few weeks. If I don't like, I can sell for little to no loss - A cheap "rental" fee you could call it. The sigma I would probably take a loss, although not a big one. I may try the Canon first, though. If I decided to pick up an 85mm prime... There may be another option or two I can do with that money if I get it it :D


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Feb 15, 2011 09:06 |  #13

85L will retain its value until a MkIII came out as long as you take care of it... so why not? :)


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Feb 15, 2011 09:12 |  #14

Invertalon wrote in post #11847100 (external link)
I am debating the same thing right now... If I get my school tuition back from the government, I will have a nice $2,000-$2,500 check coming my way. So it is either the Sigma 85 new, or the 85L used. With my prior experience with Sigma, which is not bad, I did have some frustrations with its focus in low light. I don't care how slow it is, but I wish it was more reliable. I bought a f/1.4 lens for its low light capability, and the Sigma 30mm could not keep up with me. I am worried the Sigma 85mm would be similar in behavior :(

But the Canon is double the price... The only thing is, I can buy it used and play with it a few weeks. If I don't like, I can sell for little to no loss - A cheap "rental" fee you could call it. The sigma I would probably take a loss, although not a big one. I may try the Canon first, though. If I decided to pick up an 85mm prime... There may be another option or two I can do with that money if I get it it :D

^^ Sounds like you had Sigma issues too.

I see it this way. Do it right, and do it once.

I tried the less expensive "L glass optics without the L glass price" Sigma alternative and was so fed up, the cons quickly outweighed the pros... namley Price vs. Aggrivation/Time/Misse​d Shots

I quickly realized the L price was worth it (for me).

There is no value you can put on having something you know you can rely on. If I went on a shoot and kept my Sigma, it would always be in the back of my mind "is this focusing correct? am i missing shots?". Not worth it.




  
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Feb 15, 2011 09:14 |  #15

engrmariano wrote in post #11846760 (external link)
if you can afford both, which one would you get? need help asap... ;)

What are you going to shoot with it? That might shed more light on whether to buy the 85L or the Sigma.

-Canon has the better build
-IQ differences are questionable and up to your taste
-Sigma has the quicker AF
-Sigma is half the price




  
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