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Feb 18, 2011 14:44 |  #1

Hi guys, I've been having this problem quite often; I shoot a photo, (usually in plain daylight no flash) look at the screen and the photo looks great. Properly exposed. I go on the whole day like this thinking I have a good set of images. Then I get home pop it on my monitor screen and blahh...they are badly underexposed! PLEASE Assist!

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Feb 18, 2011 14:51 |  #2

is your monitor calibrated?


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Feb 18, 2011 14:51 |  #3

Have you checked the histogram???? for correct exposure,or have you got the camera screen turned up to bright or have you got your monitor turned down to low.




  
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Feb 18, 2011 14:56 |  #4

Learn to use your histogram. Depending on the brightness setting and the light you view the preview under you can be badly badly fooled by the LCD screen. Same goes for your monitor at home, if its too bright or too dark when you view/edit you can have issues. If the histogram is right then you know you are close to having the correct exposure.




  
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Feb 18, 2011 15:21 |  #5

thanks for the advice everyone. to be honest I have never learned how to use a histogram. Will be starting to right now!
I used spyder elite 3 to calibrate but it seems to make my monitor worse. and when calibrated lightroom renders with very harsh shadows and tones. soo i turned off calibration.

http://www.4shared.com​/file/KNMPYooL/IMG_675​5.html (external link)
can you give me some feedback on exposure?




  
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Feb 18, 2011 15:45 |  #6

First, make sure you have the ability to see almost all of the 26 steps from black to white. If you cannot, you should adjust your monitor brightness and contrast to maximize the steps that you can distinguish

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Second, a histogram merely shows the distribution of pixels, and the 'proper' histogram very much is dependent upon the range of brightnesses in the scene. With a target which has white, 18%, and black areas, a properly exposed shot would be like this...

IMAGE: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/wiltonw/sunlightas_shot.jpg

If practicing Expose-to-the-right (ETTR) the three spikes would be farther to the right of the histogram, but none of the white spike should not fall off the right edge of the histogram.

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Feb 18, 2011 15:45 |  #7

Sorry whats the link all about ;)




  
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Feb 18, 2011 15:55 |  #8

calvinnemail wrote in post #11869254 (external link)
can you give me some feedback on exposure?

This image appears to have been shot in late afternoon light, no fill flash, long shadows. The camera exposed for the general scene, leaving the two faces in the shadows. Easy enough to improve with editing software, but could have been captured better with just some fill flash or a reflector.


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Feb 18, 2011 15:58 |  #9

thanks wilt! i have adjusted but my monitor does not have contrast setting. there is a setting called color format: HD YPbPr or PC RGB any idea which one to pick?

@butugly the link is a cr2 raw picture that i took. maybe you guys can gives some insights on exposure?




  
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Feb 18, 2011 16:00 |  #10

calvinnemail wrote in post #11869439 (external link)
thanks wilt! i have adjusted but my monitor does not have contrast setting. there is a setting called color format: HD YPbPr or PC RGB any idea which one to pick?

@butugly the link is a cr2 raw picture that i took. maybe you guys can gives some insights on exposure?

Convert it to a .jpg and post it. More people can and will help that way.




  
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Feb 18, 2011 16:09 |  #11

ChasP505 wrote in post #11869422 (external link)
This image appears to have been shot in late afternoon light, no fill flash, long shadows. The camera exposed for the general scene, leaving the two faces in the shadows. Easy enough to improve with editing software, but could have been captured better with just some fill flash or a reflector.

How did you know that?:) speaking of post processing...would I be able to make my meidocre image into a pro looking photo (composition aside just picture quality)? Or is there just no way without fill flash, correct exposure, and reflector?

maybe like this great photographer (mike larson)??
http://www.mikelarson.​com …st_Vineyard_Wed​ding-8.jpg (external link)




  
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Feb 18, 2011 16:13 |  #12

gonzogolf wrote in post #11869450 (external link)
Convert it to a .jpg and post it. More people can and will help that way.

OK. Will you be able to see the original histogram this way?


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Feb 18, 2011 16:17 |  #13

calvinnemail wrote in post #11869509 (external link)
OK. Will you be able to see the original histogram this way?

No, but if you havent adjusted the exposure in the conversion then we can see if you are close.




  
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Feb 18, 2011 16:29 |  #14

ok the one i posted is unadjusted. actually it looks a little better since i adjusted my monitor.




  
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Feb 18, 2011 16:31 |  #15

calvinnemail wrote in post #11869488 (external link)
...speaking of post processing...would I be able to make my meidocre image into a pro looking photo (composition aside just picture quality)? Or is there just no way without fill flash, correct exposure, and reflector?

Maybe not "pro looking"... You don't need expensive equipment. This shot could have been taken in some shade and with fill flash from a speedlight and a cheap flash diffuser.


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