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"Portrait professional" unreal?

 
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Feb 19, 2011 11:02 |  #1

I am constantly blown away by the level of work here and the jaw dropping models!

well I've recently stumbled across "Portrait professional" and just from the demos see it automatically produces the buttery smooth; clean skin tones I see are all the rage (here?)
http://www.portraitpro​fessional.com/gallery/​?p=3 (external link)
looking at the demo galleries:

The "purist azzhat" in me asks :When does a tack sharp representation of reality go from being a "touched up portrait" to an "unrecognizable caricature" of the subject?




  
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Feb 19, 2011 12:37 |  #2

wow it does it fast but a bit strong/fake


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Feb 19, 2011 15:26 |  #3

I have no experience with Portrait professional but i do know many of the pro's here use it with amazing results. You can dial the intensity up or down to get the level of output you desire.


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Feb 19, 2011 17:12 |  #4

I'm sure they use some of those photos to over exadurate the results in order to sell product. In some cases it almost looks like they take out some defining features of the individual.

Like cbknight said, I have seen it used and have fantastic realistic results. It's all about the settings.


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Feb 19, 2011 18:45 |  #5

I meant the question more "philosophically" I think.... I see that program can be dialed back; but to see the before and after files the person would almost be unrecognizable on the street.Especiallythe heavily freckled women;
Though infact the mona-lisa is just an "interpretation of a real person " too..
I suppose if the "client" likes it, that's all that matters.
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Feb 20, 2011 04:25 |  #6

I honestly would not use it. You may get a few clients who want that sort of thing (reshape their faces), but they will not be able to recognize themselves. It is my belief that a good portrait photographer is not just hired to take a 'good looking' picture, but to be able to communicate a statement about who the client is.

I'm not against touch ups or editing, but It is my opinion that software like this will only handicap your creativity and technical ability.


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Feb 20, 2011 08:48 |  #7

The new Portrait Pro 10 is great. Use it as a softwear tool where you need it. The default settings just indicate what it will do and gives you an overall of what it offers. Click that off and you have a huge selection to work with, it doesn't mean you have to use them and to be honest I didn't like the way the older versions treated skin texture bit this new version has made it quite nice when you need it.

Infind that if I'm shooting most people who are under forty, then Lightroom 3 does pretty much all I need since I don't do the glamour stuff. But the smoothing brush and it's adjustability as either a brush or spot removing tool is just excellent.

Sometimes eyes need a little help, yes you can go wag overboard with this so don't, it's a very broad range tool tha is exceptionally easy to work with when you need it.

You can do as little or as much as you want. I didn't use the earlier versions very often but With what I'm finding with "10" I expect to be using it a lot more.

And it's so intuitive to use that I'm rarely longer than five minutes working on a headshot.


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Feb 21, 2011 14:13 |  #8

My opinion is that it makes photos too unrealistic, but that may just be for my taste.


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Feb 21, 2011 18:41 |  #9

Way too much post processing IMO.




  
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Feb 23, 2011 10:19 |  #10

IMO touchups are ok, but when you remove all of someone's freckles and reshape their face, its no longer them.




  
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Feb 23, 2011 10:23 |  #11

that's the way I feel. I have no problem with a little skin smoothing and getting rid of some blemishes, but actual reshaping and whatnot has turned into "fake" for me


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Feb 23, 2011 10:26 |  #12

acecycles wrote in post #11875427 (external link)
I meant the question more "philosophically" I think.... I see that program can be dialed back; but to see the before and after files the person would almost be unrecognizable on the street.Especiallythe heavily freckled women;
Though infact the mona-lisa is just an "interpretation of a real person " too..
I suppose if the "client" likes it, that's all that matters.
cheers...

Like you say about the Mona Lisa, it's not like this is anything new. The first class I took on portrait photography was taught by a woman who had started as a photo retoucher, doing these same type of edits to negatives and prints back in the wet darkroom days.


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Feb 24, 2011 09:49 |  #13

I have seen portrait professional before..the site, not the software. It is incredible. I know several photographers who use it and love it.


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Feb 28, 2011 21:42 |  #14

I've been using it all this last week and think it's really amazing. For those of you who say it's too much, imagine not buying a car because the speedometer says it will go 120 miles an hour and you don't want to go 120 miles an hour. Well PP 10 offers the opportunties to go way beyond your needs and turn off the default, there's a button that's for on or off, you can set this up to do nothing at all like your Lightroom or Photoshop where you start or it will give you a default. It's like choosing to switch off AUTO on your camera, it's a choice. Just consider it like RAW in your regular processing, you can start at the beginning and just do a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of just a huge number of things separately or in bunches, it's all intuitive and all you have to do is select your choice and then use the sliders or the brush. And it's incredibly fast to use, I'd say that this week I cut my processing time into less than half from what I was doing before which was a cross between PP9 and LR3 with occasional trips over to what little I can do over in Photoshop.

I don't know why I'm bothering here though, it'll just make you people better faster huh, well duh!


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Mar 06, 2011 18:34 |  #15

i use PP excluively for the hair and eyes settings. Hair smoothing is my favourite slider :D. Everything else goes to photoshop.


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