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did you ever switch to FF only to go back to crop format?

 
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Feb 20, 2011 18:08 |  #1

Just curious if anyone has ever gotten the full frame "Bug" and then went back to a crop camera and why?



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Feb 20, 2011 18:14 |  #2

Yup... I had the 1D/1D2 and tried 1Ds/5D/1Ds2... then went back to 1D3. Only 1Ds3 would make me switch back but price is out of my range. The 1D3 is everything I want in a camera... fast, clean high ISO, awesome body and AF, lithium battery, 1.3x is a great compromise for range/DoF, and 10MP is more than I would ever need. But before going FF with a 1Ds3, I would seriously consider 1D4! 1.3x croppers suffers a bit in the wide end... that's the only practical CON I can say off the top of my head.


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Feb 20, 2011 18:27 |  #3

I had the 5D and I wanted a better AF system. After the 5D Mark II was announced I bought a used 1D Mark III.

The only place the 1.3X crop bugs me (for both 1D3 and now 1D4) is in picking a 'walkabout' lens for casual shooting on a day out or on vacation. 16-35 is too short and 24-XX is not wide enough.

So I kept the 5D for this, and also for the smaller body.


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Feb 20, 2011 18:27 |  #4

I have a buddy that shoots HS Basketball/Football, and I watched him dump his cropped bodies and buy full frame gear. We had multiple conversations about cropped bodies and the focal length of a lens. I don't think he got his head around the concept. After getting rid of the cropped bodies and going to FF, he quickly realized that the cropped sensors give you an advantage for the application he was shooting. He then switched back to cropped sensors....Expensive lesson learned. (Different tools for different tasks)

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Feb 20, 2011 18:38 |  #5

I use both and each has its value.


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Feb 20, 2011 18:46 |  #6

110yd wrote in post #11880950 (external link)
I have a buddy that shoots HS Basketball/Football, and I watched him dump his cropped bodies and buy full frame gear. We had multiple conversations about cropped bodies and the focal length of a lens. I don't think he got his head around the concept. After getting rid of the cropped bodies and going to FF, he quickly realized that the cropped sensors give you an advantage for the application he was shooting. He then switched back to cropped sensors....Expensive lesson learned. (Different tools for different tasks)

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I guess he did'nt like the 1.4X extender? or longer glass? I understand the situation. I just sold my 50D for a new 5DII and notice a huge loss on reach. Will I drop FF and go back? Hell no! However I may buy a 7D for some snazzy reach as an extra body. FF for serious photography for me anyways. I shoot mostly landscape and portraits/candids. A scattered bit of soccer. I'm sure ill miss my 50D when I hit the soccer fields again




  
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Feb 20, 2011 21:01 |  #7

Never abandoned my crop factor camera after getting my full-frame camera. I use it for backup, but also significantly for reach at the longest focal length I possess. Even when you crop the better quality more numerous pixels of the full-frame to match the crop factor camera cropping, the crop factor camera pictures are higher quality.

I got a wide angle zoom (10-22 mm) for my crop factor camera, and it has a wider angle of view than my full-frame widest lens (28 mm full frame is equivalent angle of view to a 17 mm crop factor lens) so, ironicly, I use my crop factor camera for my widest shots as well as my longest.

Another point is that the crop factor camera will give you greater depth of field when making the same photo at the same distance for the same perspective and with the same angle of view for the same composition (due to different focal lengths needed).


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Feb 21, 2011 09:42 |  #8

Monito wrote in post #11881884 (external link)
Another point is that the crop factor camera will give you greater depth of field when making the same photo at the same distance for the same perspective and with the same angle of view for the same composition (due to different focal lengths needed).

Is this a positive thing for you or a negative?




  
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Feb 21, 2011 10:21 |  #9

I have owned 2 FF bodies - Sony A900 and Canon 5Dii. Both times I sold them and went back to crop for reach and speed, as it suits my shooting style better.


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Feb 21, 2011 10:36 |  #10

Depends on your needs, I often find crop to be better for subject isolation because the entire subject is in focus.


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Feb 21, 2011 11:19 |  #11

I found I wasn't using full frame to its fullest, no pun intended... Went from 50D to 1D Mk II and a 1Ds Classic to 40D and a 5D, now I am settled with 7D and a 1D Mk II... wanting a 1D Mk III... Love the EF-S 10-22 on the 7D... UWA lenses seem expensive for FF bodies...


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Feb 21, 2011 11:57 |  #12

I had a 500d then moved to the 5D (got a great deal at work and I just wanted a bigger body as the 500d felt cramped). Loved the camera but sadly it died.

Initially I was going to get another one but decided to upgrade to the 1D mk3. Its 1.25x crop factor doesn't seem any different from the 5D in use and the viewfinder is still huge. The AF, FPS and build were the main reasons on going for it and the 1Ds Mk3 was a few grand more.


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Feb 21, 2011 13:22 |  #13

bcd01 wrote in post #11881007 (external link)
I use both and each has its value.

Bingo! I'm not sure the majority here subscribe to applying the best tool for the job! It's almost like asking a construction framer if he's gone back to a circular saw after trying a chain saw. Two different tools for two different applications.

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Feb 21, 2011 13:26 |  #14

I use both FF and 1.6X crop. They serve different purposes.


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Feb 21, 2011 16:27 |  #15

Have 5d and 1dmk2. Use both, 5d for portrait with strobes/flashes. 1dmk2 mainly for shooting sports though I also use it for portraits.


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