no "eye" sensor!? (looking at new bodies)

sometime this year i will likely upgrade from my beloved XSi (450D). currently i'm debating the merits vs cost of the t2i/t3i vs the 60D or even splurging towards a 7D (a tough comparison since they all are extremely similar)

while looking at the specs of the newly announce T3i i realized that it no longer has the eye sensor like my XSi, further looking seems to show that the 60D and i think even the 7d lack this feature. i love being able to shoot a bunch of shots but easily check the ones I need by simply looking at the screen.

have any of you made a similar "upgrade" and missed this feature? how do you deal with reviewing pictures while shooting?

SpinningCone wrote in post #11891795
sometime this year i will likely upgrade from my beloved XSi (450D). currently i'm debating the merits vs cost of the t2i/t3i vs the 60D or even splurging towards a 7D (a tough comparison since they all are extremely similar)

while looking at the specs of the newly announce T3i i realized that it no longer has the eye sensor like my XSi, further looking seems to show that the 60D and i think even the 7d lack this feature. i love being able to shoot a bunch of shots but easily check the ones I need by simply looking at the screen.

have any of you made a similar "upgrade" and missed this feature? how do you deal with reviewing pictures while shooting?

Are you talking about live-view shooting? If so, then, 60D and 7D have this feature.

No, the Rebels have a sensor that turns off the rear LCD when you raise the camera to your eye. They don't have the top LCD so the only way to see settings is a menu on the rear LCD similar to teh Q menu on your 7D.

For the OP, I have no idea why they left the sensor off of the t3i but on larger cameras like the 60D and 7D it is not necessary. These larger cameras have a small LCD on top that shows all of the settings info so the rear LCD does not turn on unless you make it, such as by turning on LiveView or going into a menu to change settings. The rear LCD also turns off automatically as soon as you half press the shutter or press the AF button on the rear (unless you are in LiveView, of course).

Can you explain further what an eye-sensor is for you?

I have the 7D and I can always easily and quickly check my images, histogram and settings on the rear LCD after taking the image.

I believe the 60D, 7D and T3i all have this? Never heard any different.

I had a T1i and the proximity sensor is a good thing to have on those smaller bodies. But krb is right, on the 60D or greater, it isn't necessary to have it as you can check your settings on the smaller lcd screen which I find to be more useful. Also having the second dial on the back is extremely useful in changing settings between aperture/shutter or adjusting the exposure compensation on the fly while looking through the viewfinder.

It's weird they did not include this feature on the T3i, because like i said, I thought it was super useful on the Rebel bodies.

krb wrote in post #11891885
No, the Rebels have a sensor that turns off the rear LCD when you raise the camera to your eye. They don't have the top LCD so the only way to see settings is a menu on the rear LCD similar to teh Q menu on your 7D.

For the OP, I have no idea why they left the sensor off of the t3i but on larger cameras like the 60D and 7D it is not necessary. These larger cameras have a small LCD on top that shows all of the settings info so the rear LCD does not turn on unless you make it, such as by turning on LiveView or going into a menu to change settings. The rear LCD also turns off automatically as soon as you half press the shutter or press the AF button on the rear (unless you are in LiveView, of course).

For settings, you simply see them in the viewfinder.
But if you're looking at a preview of a photo you took, that's not gonna show up on the lcd on top of the 7d or 60d, no?

Invertalon wrote in post #11891895
I have the 7D and I can always easily and quickly check my images, histogram and settings on the rear LCD after taking the image.

I believe the 60D, 7D and T3i all have this? Never heard any different.

he's not talking about the ability to review images, he's talking about having a sensor on the rear of the camera that automatically turns off the display when it senses that you've raised the camera to your eye.

krb wrote in post #11891914
he's not talking about the ability to review images, he's talking about having a sensor on the rear of the camera that automatically turns off the display when it senses that you've raised the camera to your eye.

Yup, he's talking about the proximity sensor.

M.Quick wrote in post #11891906
For settings, you simply see them in the viewfinder.
But if you're looking at a preview of a photo you took, that's not gonna show up on the lcd on top of the 7d or 60d, no?

Does your viewfinder show you what metering mode you are using? Does it tell you which white balance is selected? Does it say whether you are using one shot AF or AI servo? One shot, high speed continuous or timer delay?

The only way to view and change those settings on Rebel cameras is on the rear LCD and since it gets used more often Canon added a sensor to automatically turn off the rear screen.

krb wrote in post #11891928
Does your viewfinder show you what metering mode you are using? Does it tell you which white balance is selected? Does it say whether you are using one shot AF or AI servo? One shot, high speed continuous or timer delay?

Huh? How is this relevant? *shrugs head*

He asked specifcally for this and i quote

I would atleast understand that as if he wants to easily check the pictures he's been taking and do whatever he wants with them. Like if the screen turns on automatically to show them to you.??

I must be getting confused by something here Not adding it up..

M.Quick wrote in post #11891959
Huh? How is this relevant? *shrugs head*

He asked specifcally for this and i quote

I would atleast understand that as if he wants to easily check the pictures he's been taking and do whatever he wants with them. Like if the screen turns on automatically to show them to you.??

I must be getting confused by something here Not adding it up..

Yes, you are very, very confused. What the OP is asking and what he actually wrote are not entirely the same thing.

Ignore the entire rest of the thread and just read the following:

- Rebel cameras do not have a top LCD.
- Because they do not have a top LCD, the rear LCD must be used when changing settings like white balance and AF mode.
- Because Rebel users are forced to use the rear LCD so much more often, Canon added a proximity sensor on the back so that the screen turns off when you raise the camera to your eye.
- This proximity sensor turns off the rear LCD regardless of whether you were viewing camera settings or playing back images already taken.
- This proximity sensor is not necessary on the larger cameras.
- This proximity sensor is now being left off of the new t3i.
- The OP was asking why the previous two items were true. He likes being able to look at his past shots and know that the screen will turn itself off if he sees something and quickly raises the camera to his eye to shoot it. This doesn't matter on the larger cameras because they turn the screen off as soon as you start to AF.

krb wrote in post #11891994
Yes, you are very, very confused. What the OP is asking and what he actually wrote are not entirely the same thing.

That explains it Hehe

The rest i know, but thanks alot for your time, appreciate every little thing i can learn!

Pretty sure I read in DPReview that the sensor was left out due to the size requirement of the new swivel LCD display. There's simply no place to put it.

Utendar wrote in post #11892262
Pretty sure I read in DPReview that the sensor was left out due to the size requirement of the new swivel LCD display. There's simply no place to put it.

That makes perfect sense.