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Feb 25, 2011 00:05 |  #2

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Feb 25, 2011 11:34 |  #3

Nice series katodog! These are great! Love the long-ness of them. You must have had the tunes cranked!


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Feb 25, 2011 17:43 |  #4

Wow! These look amazing! I definitely like 3 and 5 the most because of the dynamic change between the long strands and the dots as well as the color balance from left to right.


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Feb 25, 2011 20:07 |  #5

Great series! For some reason they remind me of interpretive dance.... Thanks for sharing!




  
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Feb 25, 2011 20:30 |  #6

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the comments.

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Nice series katodog! These are great! Love the long-ness of them. You must have had the tunes cranked!


Not any louder than usual, it all depends on how much paint I use and what song I play.

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Great series! For some reason they remind me of interpretive dance.... Thanks for sharing!


I've got a shot from a while ago that I named "The Juggler" because it looked like a juggler entertaining kids...


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Feb 26, 2011 08:50 |  #7

Love these images. Can you describe your lighting and setup? This is very intriguing!




  
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Feb 26, 2011 09:31 |  #8

Thanks for the comment, and yes I can describe my setup for you...


Here's an image of the typical setup...


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It's basically a subwoofer from an old Creative 5.1 surround system I had for my old desktop computer and a flash. The shots in this thread were lit with two flash units, but the setup is basically the same no matter how many flash I use. The fluorescent light to the right isn't used, it's just there from when I shoot smoke, and I just pivot it out of the way for water drops or paint drops.


Take a speaker, the subwoofer works good because it's got a flat face, and cover it with plastic. I'm using the type of plastic you see used to cover your windows in the winter, and I just double-sided tape it to the speaker, making sure it's fairly tight. If it sags or has wrinkles the paint won't jump off right, or might not jump at all. The tighter, the better, because it reacts much better to the sound waves coming out of the speaker. Set your flash on either side, or both sides, and that's pretty much it.

I use wireless triggers, and set the flash to 1/64 or 1/128 power, and shoot ISO anywhere between 100 to 800, depending on how many flashes I'm using, how much power the flash is set to, and if I'm using one or two. Any lens will work, I've used the 100mm L macro, the Sigma 18-200mm OS, Sig 70-200mm f/2.8, Nifty Fifty, etc.. Lens choice doesn't matter. Set to manual focus, and put something on the speaker where you're placing the paint so you can set focus. I normally stay around f/8, but I have done shots at f/4 and f/2.8, trying to get a little "artsy" with the DOF. Shutter speed around 1/250, but I've done slow speeds, like 1/15-1/30, and it gives a pretty cool "fireworks" effect to the shots, like this one which was at 1/15...


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There's a lot to be done with different apertures, exposures, etc., but the initial setup is basically the same. I put the camera on a tripod so the focus point stays where I want it, and I either use a wireless shutter release or I just stand there with my finger on the shutter. Burst mode of course, and it doesn't matter if you use spot metering or not because you're in Manual. Also doesn't matter about single-shot, AI Servo, etc., because you're set to manual focus.

The music is controlled by a cabled volume control that came with the surround system, I can hold it in my hand and raise or lower the volume, and music comes from my Zune. I would imagine that you could just hook up to a stereo or similar and use the volume knob, but you'd need a separate volume control besides what's built-in if you use a Zune, iPod, etc., because they won't get a high-enough volume to make the paint jump high. You also ant at least one satellite speaker so you can hear the music, otherwise you might not be able to gauge when to start shooting in correspondence to when the bumps start. Subs are great for the bumps and rumbles, but without being able to hear the music you won't know when to hit the shutter button.


That's about it I think, simple setup, decent results. The paint I use is just some stuff my daughter had from a window paint set she had, and I just watered it down enough to make it fluid enough to jump. Thick paint won't work, it's just sits there, it has to have a little bit of liquidity to it. You can try water and food coloring, but it might end up to clear for the light to hit it, paint is a solid color so it works a lot better.

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Feb 26, 2011 11:50 |  #9

I also forgot to add; the flash is snooted. I make snoots out of cardboard and use them to direct the flash towards the paint, otherwise you'll get spill-over onto your background. I haven't tried it without the snoots, maybe a semi-lit background would look cool, I don't know. I also haven't used a white background, but I'm sure that might have some cool effects to it if somebody were to try it.


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Feb 27, 2011 09:17 as a reply to  @ katodog's post |  #10

Very nice.




  
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Feb 27, 2011 20:20 as a reply to  @ jgaurd's post |  #11

You rock to share your set up in such great detail. I have always wanted to try this. I teased my husband and told him I was going to use his Kef (speakers) he didn't even crack a smile:confused:




  
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Feb 27, 2011 20:23 as a reply to  @ pixelchix's post |  #12

Very cool, thanks for the setup.




  
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Feb 27, 2011 20:32 |  #13

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You rock to share your set up in such great detail. I have always wanted to try this. I teased my husband and told him I was going to use his Kef (speakers) he didn't even crack a smile:confused:


Yup, that's a sure-fire way to turn a guy into a wife-beater. Best bet is to run out to the local Wally-world and buy a cheap computer speaker system with a flat-faced sub, you can easily find one for probably around $20-$40. Cover the speaker right and you won't hurt it, and can still use it for the computer if you want


Telling the hubby you want to use his speakers is along the same lines as running up and kicking him in the ding-dong. Telling your hubby you want to use his KEF, that's like running up to him and smashing him in the junk with a cast-iron skillet...about 400 times.


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Feb 27, 2011 21:24 as a reply to  @ katodog's post |  #14

Telling the hubby you want to use his speakers is along the same lines as running up and kicking him in the ding-dong. Telling your hubby you want to use his KEF, that's like running up to him and smashing him in the junk with a cast-iron skillet...about 400 times.

bw!ROFL!!


So im sure your walls are covered in paint splatters. Ill be afraid to do this inside. Well at least not without all carpet and walls covered in plastic covering.


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Feb 27, 2011 21:28 |  #15

Nope, no mess at all. I've got my setup on the shelf-top, which is roughly 17" square, and out of the thousands of shots I've done I've got at most three drops on the floor. All the paint stays within a foot or so circumference around the middle of the speaker, it goes mostly straight up, and the arcing stuff doesn't go farther than the top of the shelf.


Plus I'm using paint that's super-easy to clean up, it's from a window-paint kit my daughter had, and once it dries it peels right off.


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