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Feb 25, 2011 03:09 |  #1

I shot the image below when I was practicing my product photography skills a while ago (back in 2009 - along with a few others). It's not very interesting or good (you can see the rough paper texture in the shadows), but it turned out OK for my purpose of displaying what is and how it goes together (which is what the supplier's one was lacking).

Manfrotto 143s flash cold shoe:

IMAGE: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/3969069085_e8f5aba4c9.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com/​photos/mdstoop/3969069​085/  (external link)

Eitherway, yesterday when I was looking to buy a few more of them, I noticed that it's been used in a few webshops around the world:

Exhibit A (external link)
Exhibit B (external link)
Exhibit C (external link)

I know this is just an insignificant piece of lighting gear and everyone could have made the shot, but I don't feel 100% comfortable about people just ripping this off of flickr to use for commercial purposes. Even my original exif data is still in there (but without copyright info since I didn't have any in lightroom back then). For some reason this just appears first in google images when you search for the model number, so maybe it was an honest mistake when looking up the supplier's images for it.

I don't really know what to do about this; or even if I should do anything. Should I email them to take it down? Should I contact manfrotto and donate the image to them :D?
Should I just shrug?

Eitherway, now it's off my chest, thanks for reading :)

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Feb 25, 2011 04:12 |  #2

They are selling camera equipment. They should know better. Send them an invoice for $1000 and offer to take it in equipment


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Feb 25, 2011 06:53 |  #3

Here's another:
http://www.evsonline.c​om …h-shoe-for-magic-arm.html (external link)


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Feb 25, 2011 07:05 |  #4

I'd email and demand they take it down or pay for a license to continue using.. They're shops, they should definitely know better.


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Feb 25, 2011 07:20 |  #5

I believe they are from several different countries


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Feb 25, 2011 07:25 |  #6

Heh, I think that's the original image from manfrotto, unless they changed it.
Edit: nvm, they're using it as a secondary image indeed.

These guys are even worse, they watermarked it!
http://fotozakupy.pl …a-lamp-systemowych,10866s (external link)

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I believe they are from several different countries

One's australian, one Russian text but with a .tv TLD, I also found a .com yesterday, but haven't dug back for it...


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Feb 25, 2011 07:49 |  #7

lettershop wrote in post #11910709 (external link)
They are selling camera equipment. They should know better. Send them an invoice for $1000 and offer to take it in equipment

I second this. But keep the license cost slightly more realistic :)


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Feb 25, 2011 08:07 |  #8

I'm not sure that me invoicing an Australian, American, Russian or Polish webshop (or sending a letter to take it down for that matter) would have any effect, but just to get some insight, what would be a realistic cost of an image like this?


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Feb 25, 2011 09:56 |  #9

ok, here we go (prices according to the Dutch 2010 Photographers indicative pricing tables):

international domains, or non-dutch sites:

use for 1 week: 201
up to a month: 251
3 months: 314
6 months: 393
a year: 491
over a year: 614

Amounts are in euros and for a 50 * 75 size ( in pixels)
100 * 150 = roughly add 75,-
200 * 300 = roughly add 110,-
400 * 600 = roughly add 200,-

For dutch sites (.nl domains), multiply with 0.7


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Feb 25, 2011 10:13 |  #10

My guess is you will never see a penny so I'd advise doing only what seems fun in and of itself.


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Feb 25, 2011 10:26 |  #11

That sucks hugely.


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Feb 25, 2011 10:34 |  #12

threaten to spread the story and maybe involve the media if they refuse to cooperate. Negative publicity should elicit some sort of response :)


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Feb 25, 2011 10:43 |  #13

Sirrith wrote in post #11912036 (external link)
threaten to spread the story and maybe involve the media if they refuse to cooperate. Negative publicity should elicit some sort of response :)

Good luck with that...

a) people generally don't care much about right and wrong if they can get the lowest price.
b) people generally don't care about image copyrights for stuff they find online.
c) look how well it worked for this guy.


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Feb 25, 2011 10:47 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #14

I think you should do something about it cause they 'stole' your work. But the thing to do isn't to go in there with 'guns a blazing'. Just write a letter saying that you appreciate that you think your picture is good enough for their website, but since you weren't contacted about using it, that you'd like it if they took it down or worked out a deal to keep using it. And if they don't do anything, then go in there with 'guns a blazing'. :evil::-D


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Feb 25, 2011 10:56 as a reply to  @ BobDawg's post |  #15

Do not go around and threaten people, especially when it will be documented.

I would contact the sites and see where it leads you. If it does not head where you want it to go, it may just be a learning experience.

Any photo posted online is game for just about anyone who wants to take it. Once in a while you may actually have some luck with compensation, I do not believe it will as likely with another country though.


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