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Off Camera flash options (HELP)

 
ChewieT
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Feb 25, 2011 04:10 |  #1

Hi, total newbie when it comes to off Camera flash. I have a 430 EXII which I have used on my camera and I have ordered a 580 EXII which is in the post. I want to get into portrait photography so am looking at getting a couple of stands with umbrellas.

My initial intention was to use the 580 on the camera and use it as a master to the 430 on a stand with an umbrella, am I right in thinking then that the system could use E-TTL and set the correct power output for each of the flashes.

While I was looking for stands and umbrellas I came across this

http://www.amazon.co.u​k …TF8&qid=1298628​380&sr=1-1 (external link)

I am assuming that with this setup I could not have a flash on the camera, they would both need to be on stands, am I also right in assuming that I would need to set the power of the flashes manually. Has anybody used this iShoot system ?

I am also looking for a radio remote shutter and was hoping to get a system which could control the flash and the shutter at the same time which I dont think this iShoot gear can do. Any recommendations for something that can, or maybe a decent seperate remote shutter control.

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Craig


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Feb 25, 2011 04:18 |  #2

Oh I forgot to add I am also planning on getting a 7D soon. Would this them mean I could use both the 430 and 580 off camera and retain E-TTL


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Feb 25, 2011 07:17 |  #3

ChewieT wrote in post #11910726 (external link)
Oh I forgot to add I am also planning on getting a 7D soon. Would this them mean I could use both the 430 and 580 off camera and retain E-TTL

Yes, it would.




  
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Feb 25, 2011 08:02 |  #4

Another question, If I were to go for this ishoot system, which I am assuming would require the flashes to be set manually, would I then also need a lightmeter. How would I know what power to set the flashes. Thanks.


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Feb 25, 2011 08:21 |  #5

no experience with the ishoot products you linked to, but they look the same as any simple radio triggering system. you're correct that you'd need to set your flashes manually. i like using a meter, but they're not absolutely necessary. without the meter, i typically lock down my shutter speed at or below x-sync speed and ballpark the aperture, then adjust the aperture accordingly.


  
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Feb 25, 2011 08:42 |  #6

How do you gauge what power to set each flash to, is it just trial and error. Can you use the camera to give you a meter reading ?. Sorry totally new to this and want some idea of what I will be doing before spending my cash :)


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Feb 25, 2011 09:23 |  #7

yes, it is trial and error, but, as you go along, you'll see your ballpark guesses get better and better quite quickly :). camera won't help metering the flash in this case. it can help meter ambient light outdoors to give you a working shutter speed, but the aperture, which controls your flash exposure, will still have to be manually dialed in without help from the camera.


  
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