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Dye Sub Printers for Event Work

 
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Feb 28, 2011 19:32 |  #16

snappy7 wrote in post #11928228 (external link)
You buy a "kit" of ribbon & paper. They match each other equally so when the ribbon is finished so is the paper. To answer your question. No the paper is not inkjet. These are thermal printers and use heat to do their stuff. (Check out "sublimation" as in dye-sub)
You've seen them many times in stores & gas stations printing the reciept you just don't know it.

Take a look at some of the links in this thread and Google around and you'll see what I mean.

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Yes I am very familiar with thermal receipt printers, I own one. I knew that dye subs used a special paper but was not aware that it came as a kit with the ink.

I was just looking at some of the small portable Canon 4x6 dye sub printers and was going to try one out just to print the small 4x6. The ink and paper packs are expensive, $15 for 36 prints. Seems expensive to me.


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Mar 01, 2011 02:09 |  #17

43 North wrote in post #11932589 (external link)
Yes I am very familiar with thermal receipt printers, I own one. I knew that dye subs used a special paper but was not aware that it came as a kit with the ink.

I was just looking at some of the small portable Canon 4x6 dye sub printers and was going to try one out just to print the small 4x6. The ink and paper packs are expensive, $15 for 36 prints. Seems expensive to me.

Its ribbon.

As both Snappy7 and I have already explained, there is no ink involved in with dye sublimation.

Canon's Selphy range are aimed at the prosumer market and because of this their printers are both expensive and limiting in what they cost to buy, what they can produce and what they cost to use.


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Mar 01, 2011 20:29 |  #18

Gary_Evans wrote in post #11934342 (external link)
Its ribbon.

As both Snappy7 and I have already explained, there is no ink involved in with dye sublimation.

Canon's Selphy range are aimed at the prosumer market and because of this their printers are both expensive and limiting in what they cost to buy, what they can produce and what they cost to use.

Hi Gary. I called systeminsight today. I saw they were selling Demo HiTi 510s 's but sods law says your going to bottom out and I did. They were all sold out. Bummer er?

However I was offered a new machine at just under £900. I did oo and arr abit, well it's a heap of dosh for me at the start of this but I recon I'll go for it. I was also offered a 7 day trial with full money back if I was unhappy with it. I think it'll be the best price I'm going to get if I'm buying new. There's not a lot under that money. I'm told the software can do some funky stuff too like frames, logos, watermarking ect. I will however try to squeeze some media out of the deal. Well ya gotta av a go, right?

Impressive websites you got there Gary. I might tap you for advice as time now n then if you don't mind. As a newbee in this field I know I've a lot to learn ~ and it's all a bit daunting too. You've clearly been at this a while.

Take a look. It's at the bottom of the page
http://www.systeminsig​ht.co.uk/store (external link)

http://www.hiti.com …rinter_P510S_Ov​erview.asp (external link)

I'll get back here with some comments when I get it.


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Mar 01, 2011 20:34 |  #19

43 North wrote in post #11932589 (external link)
Yes I am very familiar with thermal receipt printers, I own one. I knew that dye subs used a special paper but was not aware that it came as a kit with the ink.

I was just looking at some of the small portable Canon 4x6 dye sub printers and was going to try one out just to print the small 4x6. The ink and paper packs are expensive, $15 for 36 prints. Seems expensive to me.

The cheaper models are more expensive to run. But at what price for no print nozzles that block and eat ink or chips that time out and tell you to "bin me cause I'm dead" naa.., stuff it, I'm done with ink. Never again will I throw money down the shtihouse.

Here are the running costs (PPP) for the 510 given to me today. Go to XE.com for the exchange rate

"6x4 =11p
"5x7 =25p
"6x9/8 =35p

It's pennies! You can't **** at that! Right?
An Epson inkjet 2880/3000 running a 9 cart CIS will cost about £1 for your US letter size full bleed print. So it's a no brainer if you need top quality and hi output.


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Mar 02, 2011 09:04 |  #20

snappy7 wrote in post #11939034 (external link)
Impressive websites you got there Gary. I might tap you for advice as time now n then if you don't mind. As a newbee in this field I know I've a lot to learn ~ and it's all a bit daunting too. You've clearly been at this a while.

Thank you. Feel free to ask away.

One word of warning with regards to the HiTi 510. There were supply problems a few months ago with regards to the media. Lots of people had printers that they couldnt use.


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Mar 03, 2011 20:45 as a reply to  @ Gary_Evans's post |  #21

I've been looking for a dye sub printer that will handle 8x10 / 812 prints. All the links I've followed don't appear to offer anything that size, they tend to max out around 6x8 inches - any recommendations?

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Mar 03, 2011 21:47 |  #22

This is what I use, very fast, fairly light and cost effective. Great results.

http://www.imagingspec​trum.com …dye-sub_printer-ds80.html (external link)


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Mar 11, 2011 07:37 as a reply to  @ J.Napier's post |  #23

i use three printers for onsite printing: Sony Snaplab (for 5x7 prints), Sony Up-DR200 (for 4x6 prints), and a Sony UP-DR80 (for 8x10/8x12) prints. i love these printers :D




  
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Mar 31, 2011 07:18 as a reply to  @ post 11928228 |  #24

Just an update on this thread. I finally bought a dyesub printer. I bought the Mitsubushi CP-7070-DW the new double decker model from PhotoMart.


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Mar 31, 2011 11:59 |  #25

whitesell wrote in post #11951861 (external link)
I've been looking for a dye sub printer that will handle 8x10 / 812 prints. All the links I've followed don't appear to offer anything that size, they tend to max out around 6x8 inches - any recommendations?

Thanks,
Jim

They are out there, however you limit yourself into not being able to make 4x6 prints (at least not cost effectively). With a roll of 6" paper, 4x6, 6x9, 5x7 with a little trimming are all possible with no or extremely little waste. If you printed a 4x6 on an 8" roll of paper there would be quite a bit of waste, and a LOT of trimming time.




  
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May 03, 2011 00:18 |  #26

43 North wrote in post #11932589 (external link)
Yes I am very familiar with thermal receipt printers, I own one. I knew that dye subs used a special paper but was not aware that it came as a kit with the ink.

I was just looking at some of the small portable Canon 4x6 dye sub printers and was going to try one out just to print the small 4x6. The ink and paper packs are expensive, $15 for 36 prints. Seems expensive to me.

right now I use the cannon and I buy the 108 print pack for about $30ish depends where best buy has them in stock most of the time. and at the event i get more compliments from the dye sub than the inkjet!




  
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May 03, 2011 00:26 |  #27

Gary_Evans wrote in post #11934342 (external link)
Its ribbon.

As both Snappy7 and I have already explained, there is no ink involved in with dye sublimation.

Canon's Selphy range are aimed at the prosumer market and because of this their printers are both expensive and limiting in what they cost to buy, what they can produce and what they cost to use.

yea im jealous cause i sure would like to get my hands on that gear insight/you guys have ! still im gonna see what the shipping and would be. i need a fast small footprint setup with a good quailty print and that seems to be the only thing i found so far.




  
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Jun 09, 2011 11:18 |  #28

Anyone use the HiTi p510k the kiosk feature looks user friendly, several youtube video's on this printer.
Just looking for actual user feedback.




  
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May 09, 2012 09:37 |  #29

I just bought a DNP DS40 and as someone mentioned in an above post, once you go Dye-Sub, you don't go back to inkjet. Amazing printers. I have also used Fuji before and loved it.


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May 10, 2013 20:58 as a reply to  @ post 11928228 |  #30

Got a question for you all about displaying the images for purchase. If we do portrait work at the event, but also photojournalistic images of the action that we would like customers to have access to, what would you suggest in regards to display and software ideas? Ideally displaying many images at once, large enough for several people to see at once, etc.




  
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