Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Transportation 
Thread started 01 Mar 2011 (Tuesday) 12:47
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Using Reflectors Good Enough for Automotive Shots?

 
Taylor02GT
Senior Member
892 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 30
Joined Feb 2010
Location: Quincy, IL
     
Mar 01, 2011 12:47 |  #1

Been looking in to a few ways to improve my photography. I have been learning over the past week how to use strobes/flash and reading online...however I find myself more attracted to naturally lit shots.

Would it be beneficial to purchase a 42" Silver/White reflector and reflector boom stand to improve my automotive shots? Is there any examples/reading on this? I tried searching the threads here and didn't come up with much.

Here's an example of how I shoot, I'd like to add reflectors to these kinds of shots to improve them.

http://www.flickr.com …4/sizes/l/in/ph​otostream/ (external link)


Taylor - flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 6D + Canon 50mm 1.8 STM | Canon EF 24-105mm F4L
Feedback + Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
EL_PIC
Goldmember
Avatar
2,028 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2009
Location: Austin Texas - Lucca Italy
     
Mar 01, 2011 12:58 |  #2
bannedPermanent ban

FYI - most high dollar ads for Autos Cars etc are done in studio and PP pasted into settings.

Re natural light ... the bigest problem is relections and time of day.
The ones we have done outdoors often require huge custom framed tents.
42 feet would be better than 42 inch and DIY builds are often more practicle.


EL_PIC - RIT BS Photo '78 - Photomask Engineering Mgr
Canon DSLR - Nikon SLR - Phase One 60MP MFDSLR
http://www.Photo-Image-Creations.com (external link)
http://www.musecube.co​m/el_pic/ (external link)
http://www.facebook.co​m/PhotoImageCreations (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Automotive ­ Photography
Member
Avatar
185 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Southern California
     
Mar 01, 2011 13:21 |  #3

Ok here is an example of a car using nothing but reflectors. yes, I did use photoshop to aid the light. I lit the car at different areas with two people holding hand held reflectors. Work them in layers and here is a final.

IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/Roadster-01.jpg

Another example of hand held reflectors:
IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/Bonneville%202009/Bville2010-020.jpg

Start with reflectors, they are the most affordable, you can even make your own with foam core boards and silver reflective lining, though they are not as portable as the collapsible pro models.

Automotive Photography
http://www.automotive-photography.net (external link)
Worst Blog Ever
http://automotive--photography.blogspot.c​om (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Automotive ­ Photography
Member
Avatar
185 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Southern California
     
Mar 01, 2011 13:24 |  #4

One last example. This was shot with a single strobe against the setting sun. Which ever route you take, you will always step up your game if you light up the darkened areas of a vehicle with artificial or natural light. Good luck!

IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/Bonneville%202009/Bville2010-022.jpg

Automotive Photography
http://www.automotive-photography.net (external link)
Worst Blog Ever
http://automotive--photography.blogspot.c​om (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Taylor02GT
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
892 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 30
Joined Feb 2010
Location: Quincy, IL
     
Mar 01, 2011 13:34 |  #5

Wow thank you for the examples? Care to share where the reflectors were positioned so I can get a better idea of what areas are being lit? I'm assuming the strobe was camera right directly facing the broad side of the truck?


Taylor - flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 6D + Canon 50mm 1.8 STM | Canon EF 24-105mm F4L
Feedback + Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JMartel
Goldmember
Avatar
1,307 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
     
Mar 01, 2011 13:53 |  #6

You can also buy reflectors for not much more money than the foam core boards at Walmart. Do a search for 5 in 1 reflector on Ebay. You can get a 43" 5 in 1 for $17 shipped.


Jeff
Gear List
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Automotive ­ Photography
Member
Avatar
185 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Southern California
     
Mar 01, 2011 14:15 |  #7

JMartel wrote in post #11936977 (external link)
You can also buy reflectors for not much more money than the foam core boards at Walmart. Do a search for 5 in 1 reflector on Ebay. You can get a 43" 5 in 1 for $17 shipped.

I don't buy at Walmart. I get my foam core in large plywood sized sheets.

I would recommend Photoflex reflectors. They are durable and have lasted for the last 8 years in all types of harsh environments.


Automotive Photography
http://www.automotive-photography.net (external link)
Worst Blog Ever
http://automotive--photography.blogspot.c​om (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Automotive ­ Photography
Member
Avatar
185 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Southern California
     
Mar 01, 2011 14:24 |  #8

Taylor02GT wrote in post #11936874 (external link)
Wow thank you for the examples? Care to share where the reflectors were positioned so I can get a better idea of what areas are being lit? I'm assuming the strobe was camera right directly facing the broad side of the truck?

The strobe on the truck was to the side and the back of the truck. You can notice a slight shadow on the salt in front of the truck.

Here are a couple of examples, hope they help.

IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/light-1.jpg

Bracketed shots with reflectors lighting up grill. All I focused on was getting the grill lit up in this frame.
IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/light-2.jpg

Final photo. After a couple of bracketed shots and working in layers in photoshop. Shoot a few frames with different areas of the vehicle lit up. (keep your camera registered on a tripod) You can get great results with only $100 dollars worth of reflectors.

IMAGE: http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/RG-Photography/light-3.jpg

Automotive Photography
http://www.automotive-photography.net (external link)
Worst Blog Ever
http://automotive--photography.blogspot.c​om (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
JMartel
Goldmember
Avatar
1,307 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
     
Mar 01, 2011 14:26 |  #9

I agree. But when starting out I'd rather spend $17 to figure out if I don't like dealing with a reflector than $115 on a Photoflex one. Once you figure out that you use reflectors a lot then you spring for the more expensive ones. Just a personal view.

Where do you buy your large foam core sheets?

Those shots at Bonneville? They look great.


Jeff
Gear List
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Taylor02GT
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
892 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 30
Joined Feb 2010
Location: Quincy, IL
     
Mar 01, 2011 14:27 |  #10

See thats another thing I want to learn how to do. Shoot a few different exposures/shots to get the sky/background looking good and not blown out.

I assume you use layer masks to get that effect?


Taylor - flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 6D + Canon 50mm 1.8 STM | Canon EF 24-105mm F4L
Feedback + Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotosGuy
Cream of the Crop, R.I.P.
Avatar
75,941 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 2611
Joined Feb 2004
Location: Middle of Michigan
     
Mar 01, 2011 21:45 |  #11

Here's an example of how I shoot, I'd like to add reflectors to these kinds of shots to improve them.

I don't see where you need a reflector for that shot?


FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
Have you thought about making your own book? // Need an exposure crutch?
New Image Size Limits: Image must not exceed 1600 pixels on any side.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Taylor02GT
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
892 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 30
Joined Feb 2010
Location: Quincy, IL
     
Mar 01, 2011 22:05 |  #12

PhotosGuy wrote in post #11939458 (external link)
I don't see where you need a reflector for that shot?

I don't, I guess it wasn't really an example of why I need one more or less how I shoot. Here's one of my own car...I could have used one..

IMAGE: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4753799400_85f882474a_b.jpg

Taylor - flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 6D + Canon 50mm 1.8 STM | Canon EF 24-105mm F4L
Feedback + Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Automotive ­ Photography
Member
Avatar
185 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Southern California
     
Mar 02, 2011 00:06 |  #13

Taylor02GT wrote in post #11939579 (external link)
I don't, I guess it wasn't really an example of why I need one more or less how I shoot. Here's one of my own car...I could have used one..

QUOTED IMAGE

I think you could have also waited for the light to get softer on the black car (black is a tough color to shoot) and turned the headlights on to get contrast on the front. Also a circ polarizer would help kill reflection on the side of the car.

Your DOF is good, stance and position of the car and it's front wheel is good. Back ground is not exciting, but you have what looks to me a good eye about the stance.


Automotive Photography
http://www.automotive-photography.net (external link)
Worst Blog Ever
http://automotive--photography.blogspot.c​om (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Taylor02GT
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
892 posts
Gallery: 3 photos
Likes: 30
Joined Feb 2010
Location: Quincy, IL
     
Mar 02, 2011 00:13 |  #14

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback and the compliments!

I have only been shooting with a DSLR since January 2010, and 75% of my photography has been cars so I've had decent practice. That shot was of my own car...it was more of a "well i swapped on hoods so lets grab the 70-200 2.8 and grab a pic real quick" haha. When I do cars for others I put a lot more effort into positioning and back ground but I can see the flaw in this shot.

I guess I can just keep working with natural lighting.


Here's a natty light shot with my old lens set-up. Wish I would have cloned out the poles growing from the car. Taken at my brothers high school (taken tehre on purpose)

http://farm5.static.fl​ickr.com …58617387_e77d38​11d5_b.jpg (external link)


Taylor - flickr (external link)
Canon EOS 6D + Canon 50mm 1.8 STM | Canon EF 24-105mm F4L
Feedback + Gear

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotosGuy
Cream of the Crop, R.I.P.
Avatar
75,941 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 2611
Joined Feb 2004
Location: Middle of Michigan
     
Mar 02, 2011 09:56 |  #15

Here's one of my own car...I could have used one..

Softer light would have worked better for me, too. OTOH, there's detail in the shadows & this is how we expect a car to look in that lighting, so it's an OK shot. Look at the "Beast" (external link) No reflector or additional light was used for that shot.

What I would do with that last shot would be to crop a lot of that background out. That's why it's called "background" & I don't think it adds anything to the shot except distraction.


FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
Have you thought about making your own book? // Need an exposure crutch?
New Image Size Limits: Image must not exceed 1600 pixels on any side.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

9,375 views & 1 like for this thread, 6 members have posted to it.
Using Reflectors Good Enough for Automotive Shots?
FORUMS Photo Sharing & Discussion Transportation 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is MWCarlsson
971 guests, 122 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.