FJ LOVE wrote in post #12018111
i'm the exact opposite of that Alex, when i hear 20c i have convert it to 73F to know how warm i'll be

Did you live somewhere else before Ontario? Well, I guess I should ask if you lived outside Canada. 
20droger wrote in post #12018172
Well, here's where we part company, Mel.
Having been in circumstances where humans hunted humans for real, with rifles and bullets (among other things), I am against any sport or activity, physical or virtual, that makes such a thing a game. I believe such games desensitize people to the pain and suffering caused by the real activity.
I know a number of you out there will disagree with me. Feel free to do so. You have a right to be as wrong as you wish.
I can't speak for others, but I can speak for myself. Activities such as paintball, lazer tag, Nerf blasters, and first person shooter video games do not desensitize me to the pain and suffering caused by the real thing. And how could it? Any human death, whether or not it involved firearms, is a horrible thing. Wars, murders, gang shootings, human hunting, all of those are despicable things.
When I take part in activities that involve "shooting" at another person, I don't take sadistic pleasure in having "killed" someone. I regard paintball as a sport in which we attempt to tag the opposing players. There are many qualities to paintball as a sport when one follows all rules of safety and plays honestly and with respect of others, such as team building, learning good communication, and getting physical activity. There are always people who do not respect the well being of others and give a bad rep to paintball (as is true with just about any activity). I never condone individuals using paintball markers outside of a paintball playing field or facility to torment, injure, and sometimes even fatally shoot people. The same goes for lazer tag and playing with Nerf blasters (and Super Soaker water guns) as a kid. For me, there is a clear distinction between play and real life. I could never enjoy seeing someone suffer in real life, especially as a result of my own actions.
If anything, first person shooter video games are a lot worse than playing paintball. Most of them are basically a simulation of what you could do in real life with weapons that actually exist and scenarios that could truly happen. There are people who play those games, and then go out and try to replicate this in real life. They go buy a firearm and go shoot at people. This is reprehensible and disgusting. But that is something I would never do and about which I would never feel just indifferent. I presume that it also is something most sane people who have just an once of compassion would never do or feel okay about.