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Mar 05, 2011 14:05 |  #1

I know it's quite a debate sometimes, I think this one is a Coopers, but correct me if I'm wrong. What ever he is, he is enjoying one of the regulars that feed in my back yard. Hey Hawk's gotta eat too.

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Mar 05, 2011 14:16 |  #2

Coopers and really nice captures.


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Mar 05, 2011 14:16 |  #3

II would say a Coopers, other than those pesky sticks, they are very nice shots.


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Mar 05, 2011 14:20 |  #4

And the fun begins, Sharpy. But, I would like to see the tip of the tail which you cut off! : )


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Mar 05, 2011 15:18 |  #5

the tip of the tail would tell


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Mar 05, 2011 15:29 as a reply to  @ luciddreamer's post |  #6

I would have to go Sharpie too based on the size of the pickets in the fence (judging those as 1x6s). Great detail in the upper part of the body but no fair choppin' the tail and then asking the question!


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Mar 05, 2011 15:36 |  #7

Come on Joe, I know you have one with the tails tip in there. I was forced to make the ID by all the other signs, like the dark on top of the head extending all the way to the back. A coops would have that "capped" look, with a lighter colored nape. Also, the thin legs and tiny toes. Also the big eye look that sharpies have due to the little head.
All those signs add up to sharpy, but to see the tip of the tail would sure of made it easier. : )


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Mar 05, 2011 16:56 as a reply to  @ peregrineflier's post |  #8

Ok, here are a few more, these were taken out my bedroom window to not the best IQ.

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And now for the tail...

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Mar 05, 2011 16:59 as a reply to  @ jlcarnagey's post |  #9

The first bird has red eyes...the second has yellow....are you sure it's the same Hawk? Second one I say Sharpie.


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Mar 05, 2011 17:10 |  #10

Duane N wrote in post #11962503 (external link)
The first bird has red eyes...the second has yellow....are you sure it's the same Hawk? Second one I say Sharpie.

I'm not sure, the last two pictures were taken on two other days. It could be different birds enjoying the "bird feeder."




  
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Mar 05, 2011 17:11 |  #11

Duane N wrote in post #11962503 (external link)
The first bird has red eyes...the second has yellow....are you sure it's the same Hawk? Second one I say Sharpie.

Ya Joe, what gives, the second set of shots is an immature sharpy, the first is an adult sharpy, what gives, are you testing us?


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Mar 05, 2011 17:12 as a reply to  @ jlcarnagey's post |  #12

This one shows a little bit of the tail, it was taken today. The branch is in the way of course.

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Mar 05, 2011 17:20 |  #13

Yep Joe, the tail always tells, notice how all the feathers are the same length. That is what gives sharpies their square tail look. If this was a coops the outer tail feathers would look shorter then the top feathers. Also, this picture gives a better view of the nape, showing the dark on top of the head extending down to the back


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Mar 05, 2011 17:25 |  #14

peregrineflier wrote in post #11962591 (external link)
Yep Joe, the tail always tells, notice how all the feathers are the same length. That is what gives sharpies their square tail look. If this was a coops the outer tail feathers would look shorter then the top feathers. Also, this picture gives a better view of the nape, showing the dark on top of the head extending down to the back

Thanks Tom, maybe a better angle next time.




  
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