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Should I upgrade to the 60D?

 
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Mar 05, 2011 14:45 |  #1

I purchased a Canon Rebel t2i last summer and I love it... I recently heard about a deal with canon regarding their refurbished cameras. If you trade in an old crappy Canon (I have a super old digital camera) then you can get 20% off of a refurbished camera. I've worked out the math and if I sell my t2i w/kit lens, I can get the 60D for virtually no cost.

I was wondering if it is worth it... are the differences significant enough to justify the trade?

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Mar 05, 2011 15:19 |  #2

I think you can easily see for yourself if you go into a store and hold it - vs the Rebel. In any case - if you want faster frames per second burst, rear scroll wheel, top lcd, electronic level, larger/heavier more ergonomic grip, and better auto-focus system, its worth it in my opinion. Oh, and the flippy screen is a bonus, along with some in-camera amusing filter effects.

But the new T3i has half of these perks.

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I purchased a Canon Rebel t2i last summer and I love it... I recently heard about a deal with canon regarding their refurbished cameras. If you trade in an old crappy Canon (I have a super old digital camera) then you can get 20% off of a refurbished camera. I've worked out the math and if I sell my t2i w/kit lens, I can get the 60D for virtually no cost.

I was wondering if it is worth it... are the differences significant enough to justify the trade?

Thanks in advance.

Zach



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Mar 05, 2011 15:23 |  #3

Also you need to see if clp has any refreb 60D instock. If they do not have available. You may have to wait for them to come in.


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Mar 05, 2011 20:52 as a reply to  @ shoturtle's post |  #4

Thanks for the help so far.... any other suggestions?




  
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Mar 05, 2011 20:55 |  #5

Are you upgrading for a upgrade, or is there something the t2i is not doing for you? If the T2i is working for you. I would spend time working on your photography, and if you really want a upgrade for the heck of things, go with glass first.


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Mar 05, 2011 21:00 |  #6

shoturtle wrote in post #11963588 (external link)
Are you upgrading for a upgrade, or is there something the t2i is not doing for you? If the T2i is working for you. I would spend time working on your photography, and if you really want a upgrade for the heck of things, go with glass first.

shoturtle beat me too it... frankly the T2i is an Excellent entry level DSLR...

the biggest upgrade features of the 60D is the fps and AF performance. If you don't rely on AI Servo much or in other words if you shoot mostly stills - save up for better glass vs the 60D or similar...



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Mar 05, 2011 21:42 as a reply to  @ Immaculens's post |  #7

Well, I do use the AI Servo mode a bit for panning shots and such... will I notice any difference in image quality? If it has the same sensor and processor (I think it does) as the t2i then there won't be a difference will there? I was just looking at my friend's 7D and the sharpness and detail in his pictures are amazing... with the 60D I wouldn't experience an increase in quality, would I?

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Mar 05, 2011 21:46 |  #8

That is the lens not the camera, IQ is the same with the t2i, t3i, 60d and 7d. Go for higher grade glass and you will have sharper photos. Also if you do not have a USM lens, get one for action shooting.

The 60D AF is better, and depending on how much action you take, without the right lens, as the kit 18-135 is not that great in AF speed as it is not a USM lens, and not that great optically. You will not really see much gain.


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Mar 05, 2011 21:49 |  #9

Immaculens wrote in post #11962055 (external link)
I think you can easily see for yourself if you go into a store and hold it - vs the Rebel. In any case - if you want faster frames per second burst, rear scroll wheel, top lcd, electronic level, larger/heavier more ergonomic grip, and better auto-focus system, its worth it in my opinion. Oh, and the flippy screen is a bonus, along with some in-camera amusing filter effects.

But the new T3i has half of these perks.

i made my decision doing basically what immaculens described here. i had a T1i which i loved, but one day i had the opportunity to handle the 60D and fell in love with it.
i also sampled the 7D, and decided on the 60D because of the way it felt, the way it performed and the ease of handling for me and the decent upgrades from my T1i.
no regrets here. do what immaculens suggested. handle one, see how it feels and how you feel about it, and that alone should help you make your decision.



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Mar 05, 2011 22:04 as a reply to  @ jay125's post |  #10

I have a 15-85mm that is really good... I got it a few weeks ago to replace my 18-55mm kit lens, and the differences are night and day. I guess I just need to get used to using it.

Another plus of the 60D was the more 'professional' layout. That is a huge plus but if the image quality isn't any different then I don't see a need to upgrade.

Thanks for your help, really appreciate it.




  
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Mar 05, 2011 22:09 as a reply to  @ slapshot36227's post |  #11

Also, if I plan on doing post-processing (I shoot in RAW and edit with Aperture...) should I mess with the internal shooting styles? I just keep it in neutral, is this a good idea?

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Mar 05, 2011 22:13 |  #12

Yeah if you are a raw shooter. And if you are shooting action in burst mode. The 60D does have a much bigger buffer. Your t2i are getting around 7photos before buffer lag in raw. You will get about 20 with the 60D in high speed burst.

But leave the camera in natural for raw shooting, all the process will be done with aperture.


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Mar 05, 2011 22:26 as a reply to  @ shoturtle's post |  #13

Awesome, that's what I thought. I do action shooting about once a month but never need to shoot more than about 5 in a row. Thanks for your help.




  
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Mar 05, 2011 22:29 |  #14

I'm not so sure the 60D is currently part of the Canon Loyalty Program. Have you called the number?

This is the page that has all the info, and it was updated only four days ago: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=948785

But it could be that the 60D is on there. You have to call to find out. They are extremely helpful. I've called a couple times and couldn't believe how well they answered every question I had.


In response to your question (should I upgrade): It really depends on what you're looking for.

If you're serious about video and will shoot a lot of video, then the flip screen will help a lot. If you really need the faster frames per second rate (like for shooting sports) then the 60D is a great upgrade. Plus, if you get into messy elements (dusty areas, drizzling rain, etc.) then the 60D is for you (I think it's weather-sealed....but I'm not exactly sure. The 50D was).

But if you're simply looking for better image quality of your photos, you won't get it. The 60D uses the exact same sensor and processor as the T2i. Your ISO performance, noise levels, colors....yada yada...those will be identical.

Personally, being the owner of a T2i, I'd love to have a 60D, but I don't need it at all. I don't shoot video (although I thought I would a lot when I first bought my T2i), I don't shoot sports, and I baby my camera when it comes to dirt, dust and rain.

I learned that my T2i is going to be my permanent camera until the day I go to full frame (which I would love to do yesterday, but until I find a sack with three grand in it, that's not going to happen in the next year or two).

By the way (just to add some confusing fun to this): Don't let anyone tell you otherwise: When it comes to shooting still objects (people, bridges, flowers, etc.), full frame is a world of difference. It absolutely blows crop away. People will argue with me and show samples till the cows come home, but the truth is that full-frame is spectacular. I visit this website (POTN) everyday for hours, and when I look at photos, 99.9% of the time I can tell if they are crop or full-frame. It's very rare that I see a photo and guess it to be full frame, and then find out it's not.

Full frame is the bomb. I can't wait to get there.


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Mar 05, 2011 22:30 |  #15

Most action shooter I know shot in high jpeg. With the t2i you get about 19 shots, and 60D 49.


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Canon 60D, T1i/500D, Eos 1, Eos 630, and Olympus epl-1. Current Canon Lenses ef 100 2.8, ef 85 1.8, ef 50 1.4, ef 28 1.8, ef 50 1.8,ef 28-135, ef 70-300, ef-s 18-55, ef-s 55-250, 500D close up lens. Current Olympus lenses oly m4/3 14-42, oly 4/3 35mm 3.5 macro with m4/3 adapter, panasonic 45-200, panasonic 20 1.7. And a Part time Pentax K-X shooter.

  
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