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Nov 10, 2011 06:46 |  #256

Because I bought one and tested it. Yes they trigger - they do not power adjust with the Cube, as OEMs do. No they are not 100% ETTL.


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Nov 10, 2011 06:53 |  #257

heinimi wrote in post #13380118 (external link)
How do you know? I saw a video showed Radio Poppers and 565EX working together perfectly. Also it is 100% ETTL compatible.

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Because I bought one and tested it. Yes they trigger - they do not power adjust with the Cube, as OEMs do. No they are not 100% ETTL.

hardly makes it definitive


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Nov 10, 2011 06:58 |  #258

Test it yourself then :) There are others that have reported the same thing as well.


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Nov 10, 2011 12:57 |  #259

I have ordered the 565 and a Yongnuo ST-E2 from photogadgets. Plan to shoot E-TTL (with my 480 EX II) with this setup. I'll post on here if I have any observations worth sharing.


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Nov 10, 2011 13:15 |  #260

kaelaria wrote in post #13380143 (external link)
Because I bought one and tested it. Yes they trigger - they do not power adjust with the Cube, as OEMs do. No they are not 100% ETTL.

thanks for sharing - i was wondering about its compatibility with the JrX/RPCube system; i would have thought that since the YN-565 is able to communicate ETTL information on-camera, then the hotshoe should have been able to understand an RPCube's commands.

Fortunately, the PX system can be used for the YN-565's, albeit at a higher cost (need a master flash; and transmitters/receivers are more expensive).

Still, the savings between a YN-565EX and a 580EXII makes it worth the price, while sacrificing HSS and 2nd curtain sync.


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Nov 10, 2011 15:48 as a reply to  @ emdzey01's post |  #261

Yep I thought the same thing too. But it doesn't understand 100% of the commands :(


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Nov 10, 2011 18:10 |  #262

heinimi wrote in post #13379667 (external link)
@elogical: Are you using the wireless TTL flash mode? I guess you are using the optical slave mode S1. You have to press the zoom button longer, not the mode button to enter this mode.

Well, that was my first problem but I eventually did figure it out to get the right mode. I'm in wireless TTL with issues though.

I tried just now with the canon st-e2 on camera and yn-565EX and canon 550EX set up in front of it, both set to group a, channel 1. If I press the "AF-ON" button to test, both flashes will go off so I know they're communicating. Then if I take a picture aimed at the flashes, they both go off at what appears to be the same time but only the 550EX will show up in the shot, the 565 is totally dark.

Next I tried with a 1 second shutter speed just to see and the 565 is still not lit up in the shot so it must be going off as a pre-flash just before the shutter opens.

I don't know if this is something stupid I'm doing or just not compatible. I've read of one other person in an amazon review who said they had the exact same issue but then multiple other reviews seem to imply that it works. They might be talking about the yongnuo ST-E2 instead though.

I've heard good things about the yongnuo version of the ST-E2 so maybe I should just sell and buy that.... kinda ticks me off though, I'd rather keep the canon. I'm happy with everything else about the flash and I could buy three more for the price of getting a 580exII though so it's not enough to make me go all canon.


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Nov 11, 2011 00:38 |  #263

What you describe is exactly what happens if you are in S1 mode. What shutter speeds you are using? Less than 1/160s?




  
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Nov 11, 2011 06:18 |  #264

heinimi wrote in post #13384544 (external link)
What you describe is exactly what happens if you are in S1 mode. What shutter speeds you are using? Less than 1/160s?

No, I don't think it is user error. Multiple reviewers on Amazon all seem to confirm that the YN-565 does not work with the Canon ST-E2.

http://www.amazon.com …ySubmissionDate​Descending (external link)


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Nov 11, 2011 06:43 |  #265

Fransener from speedlights.net says the contrary.
Read this page (external link)

Under the "Master Flashes – Compatibility List" paragraph

I tend to trust more Fransener than the Amazon self proclaimed "reviewers"

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No, I don't think it is user error. Multiple reviewers on Amazon all seem to confirm that the YN-565 does not work with the Canon ST-E2.

http://www.amazon.com …ySubmissionDate​Descending (external link)




  
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Nov 11, 2011 07:05 |  #266

FrancoisM wrote in post #13385098 (external link)
Fransener from speedlights.net says the contrary.
Read this page (external link)

Under the "Master Flashes – Compatibility List" paragraph

I tend to trust more Fransener than the Amazon self proclaimed "reviewers"

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In the fine print he confirms that his first copy did NOT work with the ST-E2 and only the sceond one did work.

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Nov 11, 2011 11:49 |  #267

Thanks for the links. I haven't totally ruled out user error but I don't think there's much else to try at this point. I can use my st-e2 with the canon flash still so the controller isn't the issue.

It's interesting that the tester from your last link got the 2nd one to work but not the 1st. I wonder if it could have been a bug that they fixed but didn't want to acknowledge? I kind of doubt it, but it crossed my mind... I was one of the guinea pigs for the flash, I ordered it back on 8/10 right after it came out.

I tried "S1" and "S2" optical modes as well to see what it did. "S1" does the same thing as "SL" (slave), it triggers at a preflash or something and doesn't show in the shot. "S2" triggering in manual does work using either the st-e2 or another flash on camera.


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Nov 11, 2011 11:52 |  #268

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I see, so that's a con then?

What other 165 dollar flashes (New) have HSS?? Thats going to be a short list


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Nov 11, 2011 13:38 |  #269

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What other 165 dollar flashes (New) have HSS?? Thats going to be a short list

exactly... I was disappointed they didn't add HSS but it doesn't exactly ruin the deal for most people, it's still an impressive feature list for the price


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Nov 11, 2011 15:19 |  #270

Correct me if i'm wrong but this would still be coming from China if it's ordered from The Photo Gadget correct?

http://thephotogadget.​com …h-canon-incl-diffuser-cap (external link)

Is it worth it to try and find a place that sells in the USA in case of issues and needing to send it back even if it costs a little more $$?


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