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90mm TS-E or 24mm TS-E II which one?

 
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Mar 09, 2011 08:36 |  #1

I am doing some product photography and, of course, finding out the macro can't do it all. So I am looking to spend my tax return on a TS-E lens.

I have a MIII and a 5Dc, four speedlites (shooting wireless), and a table top soft box.

I've viewed some video tutorials on product photography using the 90mm TS-E and it seems to be the most ideal for product photography.

The 24mm TS-E II gets the best reviews and considered by some as sharpest lens Canon as produced to date.

I would prefer the 24mm so I can use the lens for more than just product photography and feel the 90mm would not be wide enough for architectural and landscape photography.

My question is, if I were to buy the 24mm TS-E would the be too wide for product photography? Has anyone worked with the 24mm TS-E on product photography and could you give pros and cons.


  
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Mar 09, 2011 08:59 |  #2

is the MIII a 1d mk iii? the Live view will definitely be a help in his case with either lens. focusing through the viewfinder must be a PITA...one reason I keep saving for the 5dmkii over the 5dc

anyway, the 24 is definitely more of an architectural/landscap​e lens, although with extension tubes it can do decent product photography, although not in the class of the 90mm (although I do not speak from experience, only from shots I have seen)

depending on your final needs and standards, you might opt for the 90 and a 24mm mk i...yeah it has some CA, and some softness in the corners, but still a pretty decent lens for the price


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Mar 09, 2011 09:10 |  #3

Sorry about that, yes the 1D Mark III, I haven't used the live view on it yet, but I used the 5Dc so far teathered to my 24. I will have to try the live view.


  
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Mar 09, 2011 10:21 |  #4

If you only need tilt for your product work then you might want to consider trying a ~$70-$100 tilt adapter with your macro lens. I see a lot of them online that are set permanently at 8 or 11 degrees for that price. If it does what you need it is way cheaper than a TS-E. Perhaps you can check and see if any local photo shops happen to have one you can try out before you buy one, or maybe someone here has some experience with them for product photography and will share their experience and shots.


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Mar 09, 2011 10:32 |  #5

Haven't heard of those before. I'll have to look into this. Will it decrease image quality?


  
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Mar 09, 2011 10:57 |  #6

You don't want to shoot product with a 24; there's just too much distortion (unless your product is a car and your studio is small). It's an archi/landscape lens. The 90 is what you want. I can see why you'd want a TS-E for vertical corrections, but at 90 or even longer, you might be far enough back that you don't need view-camera correctons. Like the Zeiss 100 MP.


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Mar 09, 2011 11:40 |  #7

Didn't think of that. I could get the 90mm and then go with the 24mm later if I feel the need. Thanks for the information.


  
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Mar 09, 2011 11:58 |  #8

Yes, perspective counts. The best lens for product shots, food shots, and such = 90 TS-E. Yes, you may need some room to operate in.


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Mar 09, 2011 12:45 |  #9

For some reason I was thinking that the TS-E corrected perspective.


  
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Mar 09, 2011 12:50 |  #10

Perspective has only to do with subject (and perhaps background) distance, not any lens.


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Mar 09, 2011 13:04 |  #11

I use the 45mm TS-E mostly for small product/tabletop shots. Now that's on crop cameras (1.6X) but I'd choose it for a 1.3X camera, too. On full frame I might use 90mm, depending upon the size of the product and how much magnification is needed. A 70 or 75mm might be more ideal on FF.

Live View is one way to go. Call me old fashioned, but I generally prefer to use an angle finder or just look throught the VF. Tethered might be even better, though.

The reason I use the shorter lens for this type shooting is so that I can reach out and rearrange the subject while keeping my eye to the viewfinder. Normally for macro or near macro shooting I don't want to be so close, but this is an exception. It's a signficant time saver to be within arm's reach when you have a hundred or two hundred small products to photograph.

Tilt can be handy to align your plane of focus, if needed. Shift is more rarely used, but sometimes can be helpful with more highly reflective objects, to keep yourself and the camera out of the shot.


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Mar 09, 2011 13:30 |  #12

Being able to reach out and touch the subject while looking through the viewfinder sounds very lazy to me. In a studio situation, you have all the time in the world and better perspective makes better pix.


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Mar 10, 2011 15:58 |  #13

TS-E24 and a set of tubes gets you close to 45mm.


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Mar 10, 2011 16:06 |  #14

Since I shoot mostly jewelry, I'm a little gun shy about the 24mm now that the idea of perspective issues has come up. I plan to get the Kenko tube set and a 1.4 extender, but I'm not so sure anymore about the 24mm.


  
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Mar 10, 2011 16:08 |  #15

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Since I shoot mostly jewelry, I'm a little gun shy about the 24mm now that the idea of perspective issues has come up. I plan to get the Kenko tube set and a 1.4 extender, but I'm not so sure anymore about the 24mm.

90mm then, I've got both the 90 and the 24II.


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