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Mar 13, 2011 09:30 |  #31

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You people are taking this too far. The Macbook Air has been chirped for barely being able to handle Adobe programs, yet now the iPad can handle and EDIT RAW photos?

I can edit 5Dii raw files on my MacBook Air using Aperture. It's not a speed demon but that's mostly because of it's 2 gb of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512 mb so that appears to be the weak link (and which could be alleviated by the solid-state memory in iPads). Its gpu is 9x the speed of the iPad 1, so I suspect that would dramatically improve "Aperture for iPad" performance, should such an app ever be made. Would it closely compare to a desktop or even MacBook? Probably not, but it could be done.


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Mar 13, 2011 10:21 |  #32

Tony_Stark wrote in post #12010127 (external link)
You people are taking this too far. The Macbook Air has been chirped for barely being able to handle Adobe programs, yet now the iPad can handle and EDIT RAW photos?

These rumors are being taken too far. As far as Canon and Apple relationship is concerned, the main thing that will arise from any partnership is going to start with including Thunderbolt ports on Canon DSLRs.

Agreed. The Macbook air struggles with a C2D or even modern i3, and people think the Ipad can perform adequately with an A5 (basically modified ARM chip) and 1/2GB of ram.

I'm not too excited for Thunderbolt, but I don't see myself streaming video from my camera to my (new with Lightpeak) computer, so for me it's bandwidth/engineering resources wasted by not implementing USB3/other features.


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Mar 13, 2011 13:22 |  #33

Tony-S wrote in post #12010989 (external link)
I can edit 5Dii raw files on my MacBook Air using Aperture. It's not a speed demon but that's mostly because of it's 2 gb of RAM. The iPad 2 has 512 mb so that appears to be the weak link (and which could be alleviated by the solid-state memory in iPads). Its gpu is 9x the speed of the iPad 1, so I suspect that would dramatically improve "Aperture for iPad" performance, should such an app ever be made. Would it closely compare to a desktop or even MacBook? Probably not, but it could be done.

Editing photos involves alot more than 1 factor. RAM, CPU, GPU, and drive speed are all important. The ram is abysmal on the iPad, as well as CPU power and GPU power. The new model (iPad "2") clocked in at 900 Mhz :rolleyes: and Im here complaining that my 2.53 GHz C2D is not fast enough.

Editing on an Air is slow because of the slow processor and partly because of the RAM. They have drive speed (SSD) so accessing pictures is easy, but I would hate to be limited to editing pictures on my Air. Its one of the main reasons why I've dismissed an Air as any form of future hardware I may own. Besides the small screen, its lacking raw power to do anything I want. Now if only they could put the Air display in the 13" Pro and then I would be very tempted to sell my "old" 15" Pro....sucks to be a tech addict. Nothing is ever good enough :(


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Mar 13, 2011 13:25 |  #34

All of these are reasons why any image-editing iPad app would use an edit-low-res-preview-and-carry-out-edits-on-export method. Totally doable!


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Mar 13, 2011 14:46 |  #35

Tony_Stark wrote in post #12011946 (external link)
Editing photos involves alot more than 1 factor. RAM, CPU, GPU, and drive speed are all important. The ram is abysmal on the iPad, as well as CPU power and GPU power. The new model (iPad "2") clocked in at 900 Mhz :rolleyes: and Im here complaining that my 2.53 GHz C2D is not fast enough.

Aperture, unlike most photo applications, uses the gpu quite extensively. The new iPad 2 has 9x the performance of the first iPad, thus Aperture should be able to take advantage of it. Again, I'm not saying you'd get great performance, but it could probably be done. It just depends on how well the APIs are written for Core Imaging in iOS. A bigger concern for me would be the small screen real estate. I can't imagine it populated with the tools and the image at the same time.


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Mar 13, 2011 15:07 |  #36

Have fun running Aperture on a 900Mhz processor with 512mb of RAM on a 9.7" screen :lol: If were to go on MacRumors and make a thread saying that I wanted to buy a 11" Macbook Air and use Aperture on it I would get stoned to death ;)


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Mar 14, 2011 10:33 |  #37

I mentioned raw editing on the iPad and I think it would be totally doable. Just sayin. :-)


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Mar 14, 2011 10:59 |  #38

After the release of GarageBand and iMovie, many people are waiting for a real photo editing application on the iPad. I think it would work well for simple edits on the go.

I don't see much of a problem in terms of power: Adjustments would probably be made to a preview image first (which can be done more or less in realtime using the GPU) and then only applied to the full-size file when exporting.

Third-party developers are currently limited in terms of accessing the photo library, that's why we have yet to see a full-featured photo "workflow application".

Let's see what iOS 5 will bring.


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Mar 14, 2011 13:37 |  #39

Tony_Stark wrote in post #12012347 (external link)
Have fun running Aperture on a 900Mhz processor with 512mb of RAM on a 9.7" screen :lol: If were to go on MacRumors and make a thread saying that I wanted to buy a 11" Macbook Air and use Aperture on it I would get stoned to death ;)

To be fair, its a dual core CPU. Also, its an ARM CPU. This may be 100% FUD, but are't they more efficient than the X86 type CPU's. I'm not sure, so this is a question not a claim.


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Mar 14, 2011 14:11 |  #40

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To be fair, its a dual core CPU. Also, its an ARM CPU. This may be 100% FUD, but are't they more efficient than the X86 type CPU's. I'm not sure, so this is a question not a claim.

Powerwise, yes.


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Mar 14, 2011 14:29 |  #41

ARM CPUs are very efficient but overall, the CPU power of the iPad 2 is just about 1/10 of a current high-end notebook (it's all about power consumption).
But I still think it's possible to build a reasonably fast image editing application with RAW support if the software design is right. And looking at what they did with GarageBand and iMovie, I think they'll be able to do the same with iPhoto or Aperture.

As for the RAW editing on a MacBook Air discussion: These machines have equal CPU power as early MacBook Pros, combined with way faster storage and graphics. I don't see a reason why you shouldn't be able to use one for RAW editing.


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Mar 14, 2011 14:40 as a reply to  @ Indecent Exposure's post |  #42

I'd hate for Apple get anywhere near my camera, but I seriously doubt this would happen. The camera industry is ultra competitive and would require apple to spend a lot of time away from its core products. Apple's focus right now is about convergence, not products that specialize. Apple would much rather have better sensors in their iphones than try to run a camera business against Nikon and Sony.


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Mar 14, 2011 15:28 |  #43

Again, the most likely outcome of this is a thunderbolt port on Canon cameras.... I don't think anyone believes Apple would ever try to compete on a business level with Canon.


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