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20D In-Camera B&W: Yes or No

 
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Sep 26, 2005 04:06 |  #1

OK, I have got a client that has requests all B&W pictures. I have had good results with B&W processing on the computer, but I have been doing everything that I can to keep post processing to a minimum. Has anyone use the B&W feature on the 20D for portrait and should I use it or should I process afterwards. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks so much.

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Sep 26, 2005 04:21 |  #2

Why don't you just try it out, experiment with it and see if you get the results you want with the in-camera B&W mode.

It doesn't matter if you use the in-camera B&W mode or if you make it B&W afterwards on the computer - what counts is that you are happy with the result...


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Sep 26, 2005 08:19 as a reply to  @ Jesper's post |  #3

You can't go back and change it to color if you shoot B&W in camera. So shoot color and/or RAW and convert to B&W in your computer. Many softwares available for this.


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Sep 26, 2005 08:30 |  #4

Played around last week with my 20D's B&W settings, tint, tone, and diff combo's,
liked results, but will use CS2 to convert, just to be able to archive color info.


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Sep 26, 2005 10:04 |  #5

I've done some shooting with the B&W setting in the camera, and played with the filters also and have really liked the results. I also tried to do similar images using the RAW and PS color filters and found that to work also. What ever you choose, make sure you shoot with the RAW on so that you have the original color data regardless.


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Sep 26, 2005 23:39 |  #6

Thanks everyone.

"I've done some shooting with the B&W setting in the camera, and played with the filters also and have really liked the results. I also tried to do similar images using the RAW and PS color filters and found that to work also. What ever you choose, make sure you shoot with the RAW on so that you have the original color data regardless."

So Loki1117, if I shoot RAW, I will still have all color data, so I could make them color later if I wanted to? That is great, because I usually shoot RAW, so that I can have some negetives just in case. Thanks agian everyone for the help.


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Sep 28, 2005 11:41 |  #7

1. Shoot RAW, then desaturate the colors with photo editing software in the PC to get grayscale. That's what many have found to be the best technique in camera usage.

2. Good luck trying to get the shots printed so they look like classic silver halide photographic prints! Many enthusiasts have banged their head over and over to find paper and inks to mimic the look of untoned (or toned) prints from today's digital printers! Common to hear photogs complain about tinting appearing rather than pure shades of gray.


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Sep 28, 2005 13:14 |  #8

Shoot with the B+W filter in the camera, but select RAW+JPG(large) as file format.

That way, you can do both - use the B+W jpgs if they come out nice or resort to RAW if they suck.

Also take a look at this: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=87784
Most likely the images come out better if you use the RAW and apply the techniques described in this thread.

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Sep 29, 2005 01:16 |  #9

Thanks Andy, Wilt, and Everyone. I will try and play around with the in camera B&W and a RAW files, since I usually shoot RAW also. Andy, thanks for the link, and Martian and I have work on some B&W together so I already planned on getting his help. Thanks again everyone and good shooting.


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Sep 29, 2005 06:22 as a reply to  @ ryno4youth's post |  #10

I agree with 'gasrocks', keep them in colour and convert them like you have been. You get the best of both worlds that way........:D


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Sep 29, 2005 10:59 |  #11

As long as you shoot RAW it doesn't matter what setting the camera is on. You can switch back and forth as much as you like.


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Oct 01, 2005 09:19 |  #12

Shoot RAW+JPG with the camera set to B&W, that way the JPG is B&W and the RAW is color if you want to do it yourself. Have a read of this thread (35 pages of it now) for conversion tips, and reasons why you shoot RAW.


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