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Feb 05, 2013 17:06 |  #1771

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I'm guessing not a lot of people will recognize this


Is that a Heym? Double rifle, African cal?


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Feb 05, 2013 19:08 |  #1772

Here's my new acquisition ...

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Feb 05, 2013 19:23 |  #1773

Jeff_56 wrote in post #15575469 (external link)
I'm guessing not a lot of people will recognize this:

Hmm, Wild guess here. A Drillings Double? ;)
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Feb 05, 2013 22:34 |  #1774

Jeff_56 wrote in post #15575469 (external link)
I'm guessing not a lot of people will recognize this:

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I'm no expert but it looks like a Farquharson double to me.

What caliber?




  
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Feb 05, 2013 22:48 |  #1775

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Feb 05, 2013 23:42 |  #1776
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Oak table with a grasshopper with a gun on top of it

Wow you guys got it right off the bat. :rolleyes: :D

Actually it's a single barrel with a double set trigger which was pretty common. That trigger can be set to as low as 2 ounces for target shooting. It has about a 2 lb. trigger pull if the set trigger isn't engaged. CZ makes a similar setup today but with only one trigger for both operations. But the exact gun maker was a single family. From what I've been able to find out that family picked up a name for their rifles based on the region where they lived. That region was the Suhl region of Germany. The family that made the rifle was Emil Kerner u. Sohn.

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This was a rifle made to a common pattern that shared a lot of parts like the double set trigger and the octagon barrel.

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It had a break action with German claw scope mounts along with iron sights.

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The finger rest also served as the release lever for the break action. Lots of similar rifles were made as either competition rifles in what was called (and still is) German Schuetzen competitions. It is probably the oldest form of firearm competition in fact. It started in the German military dating back to the 14th century or so I read. It became popular among the public in the 1840's. Lots of really nice rifles were made for that competition that shared many of these characteristics. They also had a cheek weld BTW. The competition was at 200 yards and it was shot off hand (no rest of any kind) and with no bolt action rifles. But those rifles generally had stocks that butted up against he arm instead of the shoulder. Those are the stocks that curve at the butt end instead of being cut off pretty much straight.

Most of the rifles with these characteristics were also used in what was called stalking rifles which were rifles for hunting small game up to larger game depending on the caliber. Calibers ranged from around a .22 to stuff similar to the Mauser rounds used in both world wars. This particular rifle is supposed to use .22 Hornet cartridges according to the owner. I'm storing it for him for the winter while he travels around Florida. I have a safe to keep it in and he wanted me to do research in order to try to sell it. They aren't cheap rifles by any means. Some of the models made for royalty were off the charts in value but even the far less ornate models like this one were generally in the $3000 to $10,000 range. Some go as high as $20,000. The super ornate rifles with engraved metal work and wood sell for around $50,000. I wouldn't sell this one for less than $5000.

The thing is exact records for these rifles are impossible to find. They were blown up in WWII along with everything else in Germany. This rifle survived in the German heritage areas of Cincinnati Ohio where Schuetzen competitions were very popular until the wars made anti-German sentiment high in the region. But the competition is making a comeback and the rifles are popping up here and there.

I'll probably be selling this rifle on Gunbroker sometime in the future. If anyone has a good knowledge of these rifles I'd sure like to ask a few questions. I'm selling it for my landlord as a favor so I don't want to see anyone get burned by an unfair price. The rifle is in very good condition and shoots as accurate as almost any rifle. It's an example of a lost art of rifle making really.

Oh yeah. The grasshopper is NOT part of the gun. :D



  
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Feb 06, 2013 02:26 |  #1777

Jeff_56 wrote in post #15577761 (external link)
CZ makes a similar setup today but with only one trigger for both operations.


My Sauer 202's both have single set triggers, you simply push it forward to engage it. To be honest I never use it as it makes the trigger pull way to light for stalking on the mountains with freezing cold hands.

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Feb 06, 2013 07:48 |  #1778
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That's how my CZ trigger works too neil. It's great for target shooting but you get a trigger pull that's best for hunting too when you don't set the trigger.




  
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Feb 06, 2013 08:25 |  #1779

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Feb 06, 2013 10:37 |  #1780

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M&P Shield?

No, M&P 9C. It has the low-pro mag in it which doesn't have the pinkie extension. Kinda makes it look like the Shield.


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Feb 06, 2013 18:46 |  #1781

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Feb 06, 2013 20:02 |  #1782

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Feb 06, 2013 21:30 |  #1784

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Feb 07, 2013 05:15 |  #1785

Either ammunition is ridiculously cheap in the US or you guys earn way to much :-)


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