Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 12 Mar 2011 (Saturday) 22:33
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

A quick question about shooting on private property?

 
Downs ­ Photography
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 22:33 |  #1

Okay I normally do photo shoots at this new area around my house. http://www.fountainpar​kcentre.com/ (external link) Well today in the middle of a photo shoot and someone came out and said we can't shoot here cause it's private property, so to make a long story short I ask her if she own this area etc. and are we bothering anyone taking pictures of a mother and her daughter? Then she said we can get another five mins and we have to go. Which we didn't, so another guy came out and was like yall have to go. I said i'm not going anywhere call the police. Reason I said call them was because every photographer in that area goes to that place to do photoshoots. Now a quick question. The police couldn't do anything btw, but If they don't have nothing saying you can't shoot in this area am I still in the clear to go shoot again? Thanks in advance.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TheBurningCrown
Goldmember
Avatar
4,882 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Oct 2008
     
Mar 12, 2011 22:54 |  #2

The real question is whether or not the area you were shooting in was actually private property. Did the police come? If it was private property and you were asked to leave and refused, then you could be arrested for trespassing (regardless of whether you were taking photos or not). Whether other photographers shoot there is irrelevant.


-Dave
Gear List & Feedback
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gjl711
Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill.
Avatar
57,730 posts
Likes: 4065
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:07 |  #3

Dave is correct, If it is private property and you are asked to leave and you do not, you can get arrested for trespassing. Based on the link you provided I'm guessing that it is private property owned by some corporation. She might not have had the authority to request that you leave but the police should have removed you. Private property is private and policy is set by the owners.


Not sure why, but call me JJ.
I used to hate math but then I realised decimals have a point.
.
::Flickr:: (external link)
::Gear::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Downs ­ Photography
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:25 |  #4

They didn't ask me to leave. They told me I needed to stop taking pictures, so I told him to call the police, They had no information or signs saying it was private property, while we waiting for the police I went to one of the sweet spots and picked up my wife something. Police came and he pretty much said if thats their rules it's nothing he can do about letting us continue to shoot, so monday I will call and see whats up with that policy cause I been doing it for about a year.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
chammer
Member
Avatar
105 posts
Joined Sep 2009
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:26 |  #5

Just gonna throw this out there since the other two nailed the private property issue, but...

If every other photographer goes there...why do you want to be just like everyone else, and get the exact same images?


flickr (external link) | My Site (external link) | My Gear (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gjl711
Wait.. you can't unkill your own kill.
Avatar
57,730 posts
Likes: 4065
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:31 |  #6

Downs Photography wrote in post #12009817 (external link)
...They told me I needed to stop taking pictures..... Since most of the stores there rent from whoever the owner is. I don't see how they can ask us to leave if they don't own the place? .....

They can ask you to stop and you must stop. Imagin if I came to your rented house, let myself in and started shooting pictures. You get upset and ask me to stop but I do not. Private property does not belong to you and the owner/renter has the right to ask you to stop.


Not sure why, but call me JJ.
I used to hate math but then I realised decimals have a point.
.
::Flickr:: (external link)
::Gear::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TheBurningCrown
Goldmember
Avatar
4,882 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Oct 2008
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:31 |  #7

Downs Photography wrote in post #12009817 (external link)
They didn't ask me to leave. They told me I needed to stop taking pictures. i waiting for the police also to talk to them. Since most of the stores there rent from whoever the owner is. I don't see how they can ask us to leave if they don't own the place? For instance after I spoke with him. I went bought my wife something from one of the sweet spots in that quote "Private area" unquote.

Just remember: Publicly accessible does not mean it's public property.


-Dave
Gear List & Feedback
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Downs ­ Photography
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:35 |  #8

I feel you Burningcrown, but its a place that has around 20 stores, so I don't see how one manager out of one store and tell us to stop taking pictures. We pretty much walk around the area and take pictures not bothering anyone. After the police came. We ask him why can't we take pictures? The police said the man informed him that he we were taking professional pictures. All we had was my camera, a flash and a reflector. No biggie tho cause I over used that area lol.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Downs ­ Photography
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:37 |  #9

gjl711 wrote in post #12009835 (external link)
They can ask you to stop and you must stop. Imagin if I came to your rented house, let myself in and started shooting pictures. You get upset and ask me to stop but I do not. Private property does not belong to you and the owner/renter has the right to ask you to stop.

So what happens if I don't stop. btw I did stop I just waited for the police so we can see what the problem was.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FlyingPhotog
Cream of the "Prop"
Avatar
57,560 posts
Likes: 178
Joined May 2007
Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:38 |  #10

It's a Mall?


Jay
Crosswind Images (external link)
Facebook Fan Page (external link)

"If you aren't getting extraordinary images from today's dSLRs, regardless of brand, it's not the camera!" - Bill Fortney, Nikon Corp.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Jardiniboy
Senior Member
508 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Waipahu, Hawaii
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:39 |  #11

Downs Photography wrote in post #12009857 (external link)
So what happens if I don't stop. btw I did stop I just waited for the police so we can see what the problem was.

If you don't stop and they request you to leave. If they want to they could arrest you for trespassing. You've already received a warning to leave.


Gear List Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TheBurningCrown
Goldmember
Avatar
4,882 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Oct 2008
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:40 |  #12

Downs Photography wrote in post #12009857 (external link)
So what happens if I don't stop. btw I did stop I just waited for the police so we can see what the problem was.

See my previous:

TheBurningCrown wrote in post #12009677 (external link)
If it was private property and you were asked to leave and refused, then you could be arrested for trespassing (regardless of whether you were taking photos or not)

It depends on how mad the owners get, usually. I've also been threatened several times for shooting in public spaces which were actually private property. Response (both yours and theirs) greatly depends on the circumstances.


-Dave
Gear List & Feedback
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Downs ­ Photography
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:41 |  #13

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #12009864 (external link)
It's a Mall?

Well something like a outside mall. http://www.fountainpar​kcentre.com/ (external link) Thats the site look at the sky view. We pretty much circle the pond.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Downs ­ Photography
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,967 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Mar 2010
Location: New Orleans
     
Mar 12, 2011 23:44 |  #14

Jardiniboy wrote in post #12009872 (external link)
If you don't stop and they request you to leave. If they want to they could arrest you for trespassing. You've already received a warning to leave.

Thanks

TheBurningCrown wrote in post #12009877 (external link)
See my previous:

It depends on how mad the owners get, usually. I've also been threatened several times for shooting in public spaces which were actually private property. Response (both yours and theirs) greatly depends on the circumstances.

Thanks again. The funny thing was they walked to the other side of the pond to tell us. We couldn't shoot out here. They had to walk about 600 yards to get to us, so I had no idea why they were made. Most of the stores were closing :( , but its all good. I will stick to New Orleans spots/parks. When people shoot in that area they get business. Just about every time I shot in that area. we got a sneak/ drink etc from the restaurants in that place.


| 5D mark III | 5D mark II gripped | Canon 100L |Canon 24-105L | Canon 70-200L 2.8L IS II | Sigma 35 1.4 | Sigma 50 1.4 | Sigma 85 1.4 | 580ex II | 430ex II x 2 |
Gear
Website (external link)
Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
SkipD
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
20,476 posts
Likes: 165
Joined Dec 2002
Location: Southeastern WI, USA
     
Mar 13, 2011 00:05 |  #15

Downs Photography wrote in post #12009888 (external link)
Thanks again. The funny thing was they walked to the other side of the pond to tell us. We couldn't shoot out here. They had to walk about 600 yards to get to us, so I had no idea why they were made. Most of the stores were closing :( , but its all good. I will stick to New Orleans spots/parks. When people shoot in that area they get business. Just about every time I shot in that area. we got a sneak/ drink etc from the restaurants in that place.

The fact is that you were on privately owned property and the owner of the property can set the rules.

The solution is to contact the property owner and get written permission to use the land for your photographs (assuming the owner is willing to let you). If you're shooting for personal reasons and not for hire, letting the owner know that would go a long way toward your getting the needed permission.

It's entirely possible that you were mistaken for a "professional" photographer because of the appearance of your equipment, and I can definitely see why they don't want folks to be using their property in a money-making endeavor without at least getting permission.


Skip Douglas
A few cameras and over 50 years behind them .....
..... but still learning all the time.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

3,358 views & 0 likes for this thread, 18 members have posted to it.
A quick question about shooting on private property?
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1656 guests, 179 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.