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Apr 09, 2011 19:38 |  #3241

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Last night I rode my bike to this beach a little ways north of where we are staying, it's protected by a reef and the man-made harbor so the water is pretty still so I could get down in the ocean to snap this.

Decided to go back this morning before sunrise and snap a few, wasn't sure what the light would be like since the sun rises over the island, but was an interesting adventure.

@rafa and @annie, just had a great situation to show the benefits of an ND filter, was shooting down by the beach before sunrise and wanted a deep DOF and cloudy water, unfortunately the sky was getting to be too bright and I could only do 0.5s exposure.

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Apr 09, 2011 19:42 |  #3242

T2iMdSue wrote in post #12191218 (external link)
...I think I want to limit myself to around $300. What would you chose?...

Its a tough choice. For $300 you are in difficult territory. There are not many lenses I can think of that would merit spending that when you already have the kit lens. The 50mm f1.8 could be the only one! That is around $120 or hopefully a bit less where you are going.

For that money, the new Canon 380 EX seems perfect for the price, but it probably won't be in stores yet when you get to the store.

If you are seriously looking for a 50mm (which is really a bit long on the T2i, I must confess) I'd try and save a bit more into a 50mm f1.4 for the MUCH better AF.

Now, for $300 you could actually get the 50mm f1.8 and the Canon 270EX, but then again, version II of the flash (not yet released) would be a much better option.

I am a firm believer than saving too much on certain issues doesn't get you where you wanted and you end up upgrading later. Hard choice here. You could go for the Canon 28mm f2.8 (almost a 50mm equivalent in our cameras) but you are not gaining much... 1 stop of light over the kit lens... not sure its worth it. :(

Sorry, I'm probably of little help here,
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Apr 09, 2011 19:44 |  #3243

RafaPolit wrote in post #12191253 (external link)
Yes, I'm starting to believe I was a better photographer back then!  :o It was kind of reckless as we got right up to the circuit's curves to get the pictures. This is another from the kit lens (so it doesn't have a compressed perspective) to show you how close we were :o:


Oh, and congrats on the new toy! If things go difficult with your wife, you can always tell her: Ok, I give up bikes but I'll buy a bunch of L lenses :) . By the way, your wife has good eye for composition! Good thing she is inheriting the T2i, you'll have lots of great pictures of you, that's for sure! You have to get her to start posting here, specially if we are to lose you to the T3i thread :(

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Dang Lucky wish I could get that close to a car like that:/




  
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Apr 09, 2011 19:45 |  #3244

so we have a fresh water tank.. we have 2 new guys in the tank... i love these guys..
fresh water crabs!!!!
this guy went up the air line and is hanging on the bottom of the lid.... this is the lil guy.. the other is bigger...

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wolfy317 wrote in post #12191213 (external link)
beautiful shot!

Thanks!

AnnieBananie wrote in post #12191252 (external link)
OMG... who needs hockey when you have THAT? I'm in awe........not to mention about as jealous as jealous can be.

Thank you...

RafaPolit wrote in post #12191262 (external link)
TeleFragger, FANTASTIC shot!!! Specially for us that have been watching a two bald eagles feed their newly borns this past days! The above quoted line is kind of a contradiction to me: sun going down is actually THE best time for any type of shooting, as the light is much more pleasant, less contrasty, better angled and more warm.

That lends your picture an incredible pleasantness to it. Congrats on a great capture and thanks a lot for sharing! I'm heading over the 55-250 to praise your other image! ;)

Rafa.

i have some shots in their nest too.. just sooo far away... wish i had the 100-400 for this!!!!!!!!!

marubozo wrote in post #12191244 (external link)
I'm excited I finally get to add a bird picture to the discussion! Ok, so there's no technical merit to this photo at all and luckily I had my camera sitting next to me and I could fire off two shots before he flew away. But There was a male and female bluebird pair checking out the bird house I put up in the back yard a few weeks ago. Looks like they may build a nest here so I'll have plenty of photo opportunities this summer.

nice shot.. i would crop in to get the bird in there bigger... my eagle shot you see.. took up maybe 1/2 of the pic... maybe that is.. i cropped it in... with a pic so far out.. you dont get the details and can miss alot... however if your going for the scenery, fence and stuff... that works too... if it is for the bird.. id say try zooming in and checkout the detail!!!!! and of course let us awwww in the detail too!!!!


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Apr 09, 2011 19:45 |  #3245

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And here's another sunset to end the day.

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I know we frown upon 're-tweeting' the pictures here :) but this one absolutely merits it! What happened here that everyone decided to turn this Saturday afternoon into the 'show your best photo ever' contest! :) Maru, I agree with Annie that this is probably the best sunset we have seen from you, or anyone else here for that matter!!! I'm digging deep in my memory, but hard to find a better one.

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Apr 09, 2011 19:48 |  #3246

Vectoria wrote in post #12191340 (external link)
Dang Lucky wish I could get that close to a car like that :/

LOL! Come on over for a visit, I'll take you to the racing track and have you sit right next to the action! :) ... as you see, we have 'front row' seats on the very track :)

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Apr 09, 2011 19:51 |  #3247

revmichael wrote in post #12189984 (external link)
thanks, man, those were my first batch of photos, ever. :D you fr the PI too? :D

yeah....I just came back 4 weeks ago...my t2i got a good work out too. :)


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Apr 09, 2011 19:52 |  #3248

bobobird wrote in post #12187201 (external link)
Vectoria - a while back in response to your trinket shots I mentioned a thread about simple (and not so simple) setups one could easily do at home for still life stuff but had lost the link.

Found it now

https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=984150

Wolfy - glad you like the flower pics.



I just checked that out and it is awesome, thanks for sharing that with me:D




  
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Apr 09, 2011 19:53 |  #3249

@gepixelt - beautiful blossoms on that tree! Well done, I like the focal point to the side too, great composition.

@wolfy - Nice wheelie :D I have a 2001 cbr 600 f4i. Thanks for the comment, just checked the aperture, it switches to 6.3 pretty much right at 300mm, 295mm is 5.6.

@TeleFragger - WONDERFUL eagle shot, such a majestic animal. I need to get out to an eagle location near me, once exams are done!

@Rafa - Spot on panning shots, really well done.

Maybe I should write a mini-review, when I have a bit more time I think I will. The only thing missing from this lens is a focus limiter switch, not sure of the correct terminology. IE. one setting that limits focusing from minimum focus distance to lets say 10 feet, and another from 10 feet to infinity.

That being said it is pretty snappy for such a big lens, however going from minimum FD all the way to infinity is a bit slow, compared to my 50mm f1.4. (off the top of my head, maybe 2.5-3x slower just by guessing, ill compare it formally some time). If focus is off lets say 5-10 feet it snaps on really fast in good light, I also haven't had this lens hunt much at all (my 55-250 hunted ALL THE TIME). Its fast enough that I haven't missed any shots when i'm set up properly so far, I need to try some BIF.


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Apr 09, 2011 19:53 |  #3250

Ok, amidst this great pictures, I have a bit of concerning news. You remember my careful research into the Grips and even the jokes at my expense of buying a 'non-canon' equipment? Well, today I was doing some testing of flash, flash on reflective umbrella, flash on see-through umbrella, and, just for kicks, I decided to do a on-board flash test to post comparisons.

Well, after 5 on board flashes, ERROR 50 on the camera! I turned off (I knew the Grip is Error 50 prone with the on board flash) put the flash down, turn on again, shot two more pictures and ERROR 20 on the camera!!!

I changed both batteries on the grip and the camera is back to functioning properly, but there was NO indication of Low Battery EVER!!! Do your grips report the battery charge correctly or do you guys just change them every so often??? I'm really concerned, as this could lead to a more permanent camera failure, and I'm eagerly waiting for your own experiences. Please, PLEASE! answer? ;) Thanks,

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Apr 09, 2011 19:53 |  #3251

RafaPolit wrote in post #12191365 (external link)
LOL! Come on over for a visit, I'll take you to the racing track and have you sit right next to the action! :) ... as you see, we have 'front row' seats on the very track :)

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That would be awesome LOL. One of these days I may have to take you up on that offer, that would be amazing:)




  
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Apr 09, 2011 19:57 |  #3252

AnnieBananie wrote in post #12191252 (external link)
OMG... who needs hockey when you have THAT? I'm in awe........not to mention about as jealous as jealous can be.

this is a 1024 crop.... wish i had that 100-400... it isnt a great pic.. only cropped out... but i think it came out ok...

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Apr 09, 2011 20:01 as a reply to  @ Vectoria's post |  #3253

RafaPolit wrote in post #12191351 (external link)
I know we frown upon 're-tweeting' the pictures here :) but this one absolutely merits it! What happened here that everyone decided to turn this Saturday afternoon into the 'show your best photo ever' contest! :) Maru, I agree with Annie that this is probably the best sunset we have seen from you, or anyone else here for that matter!!! I'm digging deep in my memory, but hard to find a better one.

Thanks. And wouldn't you know it, this was the most unplanned and off-the-cuff sunset shot I've even taken. I had just put my daughter to bed and saw the camera sitting on the counter and saw some orange light coming through the window so I stepped onto the porch and just pointed at the sun, took about 3 pictures, and walked back inside.

Just goes to show you the value of just taking pictures at any opportunity you get because even if you aren't trying you may end up with something really nice. :)



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Apr 09, 2011 20:02 |  #3254

RafaPolit wrote in post #12189801 (external link)
Annie,

A Neutral Density filter's only purpose it to cut the amount of light coming into the camera. A PERFECT ND Filter would have no hue tint, no quality degradation, no chromatic aberration, no fringing, etc.. So, two pictures of static objects (without any motion like wind, or water, or clouds), one with and one without an ND filter, would look EXACTLY THE SAME. NDs are not perfect, but the quality degradation on the good ones is almost non-existent.

What are they used for? They have several key uses.

The first is to allow much slower shutter speeds for subjects where you want to emphasize motion, like a Waterfall. Lets say you aim at a waterfall during the afternoon and you get a 1/250th f8 ISO100 reading. You know that at 1/250th, water instead of looking smooth will look edgy and you don't want that. What are your choices to get slower shutter speeds? Closing the aperture is one way to go, but if you go further than f8, you risk degrading the IQ due to diffraction. You can lower the ISO, but you cannot use anything lower than ISO100. At this point, you have no option but to cut the light coming into THE LENS. An ND 8x (3 fstop) filter would allow you to shoot at 1/30th, allowing a much nicer silky look. An ND 64x (6 stop) would require a 0.4" of exposure giving you the perfect silky look.

There are other interesting uses. Lets say you are taking a nice portrait of a bride outside. Its bright daylight! Of course, you want shallow DoF so you go for your 50mm f1.8 and set it at f1.8 (this is just a 'for example' case, I wouldn't suggest f1.8 for that :) ). You set it to highlight tone priority, so you don't blow the highlights so you have ISO200 available. Now, you take a light reading and your camera tells you 1/4000th is still not fast enough and you are still a couple of fstops overexposed (assume you are shooting in the surface of Mercury or on the Sun's own surface here :) ). You could, of course, close the aperture, but then you lose the DoF advantage! Once again, the only choice is to use an ND filter to allow for a 1/3200th and a correct exposure.

So, we usually have 3 ways of reaching an exposure. With Aperture, with Shutter Speed or with ISO. If one of them reaches its limit or your target mark (a specific f aperture or shutter speed) you still have the other two to play with. If the a second one reaches its limit, you are left to play with the third one. If that one reaches its limit, you need to resort to other means. When there is too much light, ND filters are one of the solutions, just like a Flash is the solution when there is not enough light.

So, you cannot compare images side by side, cause it will do no good. You need to compare them with the settings used. So, your first image probably uses a 1/60th or more, your second image probably got a 1/15th or less... I don't know.

To top all this, you have a GRADUATED ND filter... this follow the same idea but they have a different graduation on one side of the filter and, usually, no graduation on the other end. This allows you to filter light differently in one part of the frame than in the other. Their use is mostly for landscapes where you want the sky properly exposed AND the ground properly exposed as well.

So, I agree with Marubozo as to the fact that you cannot compare a CPL filter with an ND filter, they are not meant for similar results, and if you are not on those 'extreme' examples I pointed out earlier, the images between NDd image and noNDd image are going to be identical.

Hope this is more or less helpful? Also, nice to hear you are feeling better.

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Rafa...you should write a book about this, or anything about photography I will be your first customer....I want it sign of course.....


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Apr 09, 2011 20:05 |  #3255

RafaPolit wrote in post #12191253 (external link)
Yes, I'm starting to believe I was a better photographer back then!  :o It was kind of reckless as we got right up to the circuit's curves to get the pictures. This is another from the kit lens (so it doesn't have a compressed perspective) to show you how close we were :o:

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Oh, and congrats on the new toy! If things go difficult with your wife, you can always tell her: Ok, I give up bikes but I'll buy a bunch of L lenses :) . By the way, your wife has good eye for composition! Good thing she is inheriting the T2i, you'll have lots of great pictures of you, that's for sure! You have to get her to start posting here, specially if we are to lose you to the T3i thread :(

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That is close! I'm jealous. The new toy was bought from the proceeds of a different toy, and It was very hard to choose between it or a 5dmkii.....

Speaking of a different body. I think I'm just going to get her her own t2i, because I do NOT want to stop posting to this thread. This family is great! Plus, I can save a few bucks, and put it towards the flash/lenses I need/want. I am still in the Lenses before bodies camp! Put simply the T3i is just not enough of an upgrade. I'm thinking I'll hold off until I can get the 5dmkii. The t2i is just too capable a camera!

I doubt that my wife will post here much as she mostly just wants the camera to take pics for her food blog, but you never know. As for composition, I cropped the pic. It was a center point shot. Still good, but now better imo.

AnnieBananie wrote in post #12191283 (external link)
A couple more from yesterday, but compared to what's being posted, they're boring. LOL

As you can see, he's sitting on his favorite fake Canada Goose again.

Nothing boring about them Annie. I'm envious that you have such close by visitors!

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Dang Lucky wish I could get that close to a car like that:/

Me too!!


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