7-inch beauty dish for 580EX II

Steve Beck wrote in post #12030345
How many stops of light you loose with these hotshoe beauty dishes? Does anyone have to throw in some comp?

What?

Steve Beck wrote in post #12030345
How many stops of light you loose with these hotshoe beauty dishes? Does anyone have to throw in some comp?

If you are shooting manual flash, I imagine you will lose a little bit of light as opposed to straight on flash. But, since much of the light is going straight on the subject, I would expect it is less of a loss than many other types of modifiers. Maybe 1 stop? Maybe 2 stops max?

If you are using ETTL, the camera will automatically compensate. No "additional" + or - FEC will be needed.

agv8or wrote in post #12029448
I have 3 different versions of the 6" Speedlite beauty dishes. The Adorama Flashpoint is the best right out of the box with a very nice even light pattern. ..... IMO the Adorama Flashpoints are hands down better than the Calumet or the Strobies both in quality of build, light pattern eveness right out of the box and in the way they attach to the flash.

Good to hear, thank you! I've passed on your feedback to the Flashpoint rep in the purchasing department.

Have a Lumapro lp160 flash what kind of bracket/mount would I need to use this modifier? Want a punchier fill light and this is exactly what I've been looking for?

msowsun wrote in post #12035577
If you are shooting manual flash, I imagine you will lose a little bit of light as opposed to straight on flash. But, since much of the light is going straight on the subject,
I would expect it is less of a loss than many other types of modifiers. Maybe 1 stop? Maybe 2 stops max?

If you are using ETTL, the camera will automatically compensate. No "additional" + or - FEC will be needed.

ETTL meters through the lens so it will not compensate for the loss of light you get using the beauty dish.

Sand0r wrote in post #12055051
ETTL meters through the lens so it will not compensate for the loss of light you get using the beauty dish.

Your understanding of ETTL seems flawed to me. Can you explain why you think ETTL will not compensate for the loss of light from the beauty dish?

Seriously, as far I know, ETTL fires a pre-flash at low output and meters it through the lens, also taking into account focal length/sensor size, then adjusts the output accordingly. That makes me think it does compensate for any light loss, since it meters actual flash burst through any obstructing mods

Scapevision wrote in post #12055633
Seriously, as far I know, ETTL fires a pre-flash at low output and meters it through the lens, also taking into account focal length/sensor size, then adjusts the output accordingly. That makes me think it does compensate for any light loss, since it meters actual flash burst through any obstructing mods

Correct.

*Knowledge* wrote in post #12029009
I got a 6 inch BD from Adorama and it works flawlessly. Here's a sample image using it.

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very impressive.

^thanks.

Now that looks like a modifier I'd like...beautiful photos, all.

So the 6-inch is the size to have?

UPDATE: Wait! the BD looks like it completely covers the flash...can it be used on-camera? Don't you lose the infrared focus assist with it like that?

Not to hijack the thread, but since we are talking about flashpoint beauty dishes (in this case the 580exII) anyone know which one of them have elinchrom type mounts (the larger ones 16 - 21 inchers listed on adorama's site - doesn't say)? edit: hmmm... looks like there is a flashpoint to elinchrom adapter/speedring that is on backorder.

Scapevision wrote in post #12055633
Seriously, as far I know, ETTL fires a pre-flash at low output and meters it through the lens, also taking into account focal length/sensor size, then adjusts the output accordingly. That makes me think it does compensate for any light loss, since it meters actual flash burst through any obstructing mods

This works fine in most cases but with the 580EXII and the old 580EX I have used you still may have to put +ev values to compinsate.. I do with any of the modifiers I use either bounce or say a gary fong or bounce card.. So I would think that applies to this also..

If I recall correctly the Strobies dish I have eats about 2 stops of light.
That is a lot when using a hot shoe flash. It also is not that much bigger a light source than the flash itself.

I saw the Calumet version the other day. What I like about it is the grids it will accept.

hmm interesting, i was just looking for a mini beauty dish, i'll give this one a try =)


thanks for the link