Trying to photograph a fast moving white dog with a dark face. Is there a way I can get the detail in the face without blowing the white body.
Here's an expample of the problem I have.
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ISO 400
F/L 100
AV 5.6
Whippeticious Goldmember 2,302 posts Likes: 34 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Australia More info | Mar 15, 2011 21:53 | #1 Trying to photograph a fast moving white dog with a dark face. Is there a way I can get the detail in the face without blowing the white body. data 1/1000 ISO 400 F/L 100 AV 5.6
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windpig Chopped liver More info | Mar 15, 2011 21:59 | #2 Flash. Would you like to buy a vowel?
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jra Cream of the Crop 6,568 posts Likes: 35 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Ohio More info | Mar 15, 2011 22:07 | #3 windpig wrote in post #12028447 Flash. I agree...some fill flash would help to bring out some detail in the face
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Tony_Stark Shellhead 4,287 posts Likes: 350 Joined May 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Mar 15, 2011 22:10 | #4 If you shoot raw, using adjustment brushes can bring out some detail in the faces. Also, was this image cropped in PP, or SOOC? Just curious as Im not a fan of close crops as such. Otherwise a great photo, nice job of freezing the action and keeping subjects in focus Nikon D810 | 24-70/2.8G | 58/1.4G
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windpig Chopped liver More info | Mar 15, 2011 22:12 | #5 For sure! Would you like to buy a vowel?
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Whippeticious THREAD STARTER Goldmember 2,302 posts Likes: 34 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Australia More info | Mar 15, 2011 22:27 | #6 Tony_Stark wrote in post #12028498 If you shoot raw, using adjustment brushes can bring out some detail in the faces. Also, was this image cropped in PP, or SOOC? Just curious as Im not a fan of close crops as such. Otherwise a great photo, nice job of freezing the action and keeping subjects in focus ![]() Yes, it was cropped a bit. Here's the full size. I do shoot RAW but I only use DPP for my PP and I haven't been able to get the combination of reducing highlights while bringing out detail.
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clarkbecker Senior Member 306 posts Joined Feb 2008 More info | Mar 15, 2011 22:57 | #7 Lighting is key. But not fill flash lighting, you need to shoot when her face is in the light and expose for that. Right now her face is in a shadow which is why there is no detail there. All of the sun is directly on her back. you can see a little sliver of light on her nose and it looks good. Just shoot when the light is laying on her face. clarkbeckerphotography.com
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Whippeticious THREAD STARTER Goldmember 2,302 posts Likes: 34 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Australia More info | Mar 15, 2011 23:00 | #8 that's not a sliver of light on her face, she has a little white stripe. As you can see they're pretty active, it would be a lucky shot if I was to get her face in light, I find it hard enough to even keep them in frame! Thanks all for your suggestions though, much appreciated.
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Tony_Stark Shellhead 4,287 posts Likes: 350 Joined May 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada More info | Mar 15, 2011 23:07 | #9 clark becker wrote in post #12028735 Lighting is key. But not fill flash lighting, you need to shoot when her face is in the light and expose for that. Right now her face is in a shadow which is why there is no detail there. All of the sun is directly on her back. you can see a little sliver of light on her nose and it looks good. Just shoot when the light is laying on her face. I was going to mention that. Shooting in the sun is really tough when you dont use a flash. You can go to Adobe's website and download a full-trial of Lightroom 3, or go to Apple and download the Aperture demo, and just play around with the adjustment brushes and see if you can restore some details in the faces. Nikon D810 | 24-70/2.8G | 58/1.4G
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tonylong ...winded More info | Mar 16, 2011 04:28 | #10 So, what are you asking about here? Tony
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tracknut Goldmember 1,740 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jun 2005 Location: Folsom, California More info | Mar 16, 2011 09:47 | #11 I'm in favor of getting in the right place to shoot. I know how it goes with dogs, but you've got to keep the sun in mind and if the dogs end up between you and the sun, you need to move Performance/sport dog photographer
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Whippeticious THREAD STARTER Goldmember 2,302 posts Likes: 34 Joined Nov 2008 Location: Australia More info | Mar 16, 2011 14:57 | #12 tracknut wrote in post #12030784 I'm in favor of getting in the right place to shoot. I know how it goes with dogs, but you've got to keep the sun in mind and if the dogs end up between you and the sun, you need to move ![]() Dave I cant move that fast. I'm sure you can imagine the way they were pelting around, it was hard enough just to keep them in frame, plus there was the boggy patch they were playing in. By the time I'd gotten over that they were way off in the distance. Thanks though to everyone for your help and suggestions. I dont think I'll be getting a flash anytime soon.
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Mar 16, 2011 18:09 | #13 This is where software like Lightroom can be handy to use, with its Fill Light adjustment. The Recovery tool can help (during RAW conversion) with saving details in the highlights. I only used the Fill Light control in this example (the lost detail is lost)...
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AntonLargiader Goldmember More info | Mar 16, 2011 18:31 | #14 I don't think you're going to get it any better SOOC. That is a really unfortunate circumstance, with the dark face in shadow and the white back in direct sunlight. This is simply an application for PP. Based on the back exposure, it looks like you just can't go any brighter in the camera. Image editing and C&C always OK
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[Hyuni] Goldmember 1,186 posts Likes: 15 Joined Dec 2008 Location: CHiCAGO More info | Mar 17, 2011 15:51 | #15 1) new dog 6D Rokinon 14 f/2.8 l EF 35 ƒ1.4L l EF 135 ƒ2.0L l EF 70-200 ƒ2.8L IS II l YN460 l 580EX II l Flick'd
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