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Mar 18, 2011 13:44 |  #1

I found this post on Craigslist Vancouver and was going to post some of the follow up messages that were there but they had been deleted by the time I got back to it.

This appears to be someone that was looking to boost their portfolio in the original message and appears to be innocent enough as there are tons of these across the CL network. He/she obviously hit a nerve with someone and I only post this so that those that are looking on that site for models you might want to note how important wording is for your ads.

From Craigslist wrote:
Models for a creative photo shoot (vancouver)
Date: 2011-03-15, 11:03PM PDT
Reply to: igs-avfrw-2268088172@craigslist.​org (external link) [Errors when replying to ads?]

Hoping to find a few young, in-shape models for a shoot. Want to do two shoots, female and male model.
the shoot will be great experience and love to have someone with an acting background if possible. Looking to have model emote specific emotions while being nude, and be able to express energy beyond just sitting around naked :)

Please reply with your information, experience and portfolio--fresh faces are welcomed, but please send some pics, even candids.

* Location: vancouver
* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
* Compensation: TFCD


WHOEVER POSTED THIS AD HAS ZERO INTEGRITY NOR CLASS

The professional fashion industry; be it couture or commercial
would be absolutely horrified and disgusted to see such content in a models portfolio.
This "model" would be abruptly dismissed.

I have worked as a fashion consultant for Versace, DIOR, YSL, Prada, miu miu,
Dolce & Gabbana, Roberto Cavalli, Lanvin, Balenciaga, Helmut Lang, Jill Sander,
Armani and Hugo Boss. My mother used to live in Paris doing cat walk runway for
Coco Chanel, YSL and DIOR. She then ran her own modeling agency in Germany.

I can assure you that your advertisement for actor/models to be energetically nude
to be useful in any form within a professional portfolio is an insult.

You are misrepresenting the fashion world and exposing yourself as a fraud.
Your "creative shoot" will provide your "models" with prints acceptable for the
porn industry. You could at least take ownership of what you are interested in
rather than pose as competent and valuable for fashion.

The sad thing is there are many young women that may assume your "portfolio"
photos will be suitable. They will be shamefully embarrassed should they present
such garbage to any reputable fashion house.

This ad is particularly disturbing re "fresh faces welcome" "send even candids",
Should an underage would-be-model find herself in such a "photo-shoot" I hope
someone in her family/friend circle has the where-withal to inform the RCMP.

This is a exploitative posting.


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Mar 18, 2011 13:50 |  #2

Well, being married to an ex model and knowing an ex top pro from Paris, I understand the response, because the seedy side smears those who are actually in the business. Even here in oblivion, PA, near Philly, a huge portion of the ads run which look much like the one you posted are really just fronts for pron, or fronts for selling poor photo portfolios to unsuspecting people.

That said, whoever responded is either lying or just a touch stupid, because that world is much smaller than people might think, and by calling out all those named clients it can only be one of two, maybe three people.

So, great point on caution with the advertising -- in this case the photog lacks the experience to write the ad anyway.

Best way to do this if you cannot write it is to pay a marketing firm a few dollars to do it for you.


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Mar 20, 2011 19:46 |  #3

And, of all the ads on CL, this high-brow fashion expert from such a royal fashion bloodline just happened to stumble upon this post in Vancouver.

Hasn't the responder ever seen "The Devil Wears Prada?" There would be NO time for this! ;)


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Mar 22, 2011 16:09 |  #4

Thats like looking through a dumpster and starting to cuss at a hobo...


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