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430EXII or 580EXII with YN-460II

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Mar 21, 2011 03:21 |  #1

I am completely new to the on/off camera flash photography scene and I have a couple of questions. :confused:

1. I am wondering whether if the 430EXII or the 580EXII would be the most bang for the buck and also suitable if I want to use it along with one or two Yongnuo 460II flashes? (ETTL is useless if its for off camera flash correct? Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

2. Also, would I need a TTL flash if they were strictly used for off camera only? I do not know how that works out. If I were to have a 480EXII mounted on top of a Cactus V5 on camera, and two off camera manual flashes connected to Cactus V5 receivers, how would the manual flashes know how much light to emit?

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Mar 21, 2011 08:42 |  #2

Yongnuo YN560 would actually be best bang for your buck...can't beat $80 for a speedlight-like flash ;)

1) depends on what kind of transmitters you're using. PocketWizards allow ETTL to be used...but the Cactus v5's that you mentioned do not. So, if you've got the v5's, then yes..ETTL is useless

2) ETTL does not get passed through the v5 transceiver when both are situated on top of the camera. The flash becomes a manual flash at that point. For all 3 flashes (camera mounted via v5 in hotshoe & w OCF's on v5 receivers), you will have to dial in the power/zoom settings manually.

that's why, if you plan on going strictly OCF & have no plans whatsoever of using an external flash mounted directly onto the hotshoe, you're best bang for the buck would be YN560. But, if you want a ETTL flash for hotshoe mounting at some pint, either 430 or 580EXII would work for ya.

I've got the 430EXII & have been playing w/ on-camera & off-camera flash photography for the past couple months & have no complaints at all. I think the 580 is almost identical to the 430 except that it has a highter guide number (slightly more powerful flash) & a small built-in bounce card.

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