60D "C" mode for "My Menu" settings - educate me

I want to be able to quickly alternate between two sets of basic settings - one for flash and one for no-flash. Can I use the "C" mode for this?

I read the manual, and dug around on google, but I'm still missing something. It still wants to choose aperture and shutter speed for me, as if I was in Tv or Av or even green-box mode. Can I save the basics (shutter speed, ISO, aperture) and essentially use it as a second M mode?

If the quick answer is "no" then I won't continue fumbling with it; I'll just practice getting faster at adjusting ISO/shutter/aperture on the fly.

Set your camera up as you like it for flash. M mode, 1/125 s, f/5.6, ISO 800 - or whatever is your personal preference.
Then into the menu,yellow tab, save camera setting.

Now the next time you turn the dial to C, you'll get these settings, in M mode, since that was the mode you saved it from.

Ahhhh, I think I figured out what I was missing: C mode (or Camera User Settings) is not the same as "My Menu." The terminology got me.

I was going into C mode to program all the individual advanced settings in My Menu, and wondering why the basics (shutter speed, etc) weren't in there - when I should have been going into M mode and saving the settings from there.

Thanks, mystery solved! (I think - I'll test it out when I get home)

apersson850 wrote in post #12078161
Set your camera up as you like it for flash. M mode, 1/125 s, f/5.6, ISO 800 - or whatever is your personal preference.
Then into the menu,yellow tab, save camera setting.

Now the next time you turn the dial to C, you'll get these settings, in M mode, since that was the mode you saved it from.

I use the User Selected Modes on my 40D all the time. The 40D and 50D had three separate user selectable modes. When Canon improved (??????) the 50D with the 60D, they decided that the folks who buy the 60D are not sophisticated enough to handle three user selected modes and reduced the capability to a single mode.

The 50d has two, C1 & C2.
...Terry

Your camera should remember your preferences for each dial setting... so whatever you last used in M, or Av, will show up next time you go there (and until you change it)

the "C" setting will over ride whatever you have, and if you change it, the camera will reset when it goes to sleep.

I can't believe they went down to 1. I thought 3 was a good number on the 40D and I used all of them.

They went down to two on the 50D, because it got the CA function, and then all the 15 available positions on the dial were then used.
The 60D also has the video mode on the dial, so now there's space for only one.
The 7D got rid of most of the "idiot modes", so it has plenty of space for three C-positions.

While I can see that one C is less than three Cs, and is therefore technically a "downgrade," I can't imagine that I would ever REALLY long for more than one C mode. If I can flip back and forth between flash settings (M) and non-flash settings (C), that'll be adequate. If I need more than that, I'll manually change it.

I use my C-modes on the 40D and 7D for sports with automatic exposure, sports with manual exposure and flash.
To me, that's recurring situations, all of them.

That makes sense, if every sporting event has the same location/lighting, and you don't want to set up your settings again week after week.

Though if those settings are different at every event, couldn't you just set up C, M, and Tv (or Av) at the beginning of the event, and toggle between those three for the duration of that event? I don't really have any events that recur often enough to justify a permanent home on the mode dial.

Not trying to argue, just trying to make sure I'm not missing any tricks that might be useful to me.