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Mar 30, 2011 05:40 |  #16

There are simply times when manual focus is far superior to autofocus. The same goes for a lot of the automation in today's cameras. The camera cannot think the way an experienced photographer can, although the marketing folks in the camera industry would have you believe otherwise.


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Mar 30, 2011 09:16 |  #17

jonas18z wrote in post #12122855 (external link)
I use AF-one shot and I selected the point manually. With my eyes I can see details in the face of the person, if I shoot with flash i can see details of course.

I shoot at short DOF and want to focus on there eyes.


Anyone know if nikon has better AF-system for this kind of situations?

I do not think a Nikon in the same price range as your current Canon is going to fair much better.

You are talking about some critical focusing. Is the camera on a tripod? If not, then try shooting at high speed continuous. Avoid recomposing. If yes, then manual focus and/or use a flashlight to illuminate the eyes to assist with focusing.

That's all I can really offer. Hope it helps.


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Apr 04, 2011 11:09 |  #18

AbPho wrote in post #12123684 (external link)
I do not think a Nikon in the same price range as your current Canon is going to fair much better.

You are talking about some critical focusing. Is the camera on a tripod? If not, then try shooting at high speed continuous. Avoid recomposing. If yes, then manual focus and/or use a flashlight to illuminate the eyes to assist with focusing.

That's all I can really offer. Hope it helps.



It's the same problem on 1ds mark III,




  
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Apr 04, 2011 12:29 |  #19

In strong back light situation, the problem is more due to lens flare than the camera itself. What lens are you using?


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Apr 05, 2011 03:23 as a reply to  @ eelnoraa's post |  #20

85mm 1.2 II

70-200 / 4 IS

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50mm 1.2




  
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Apr 05, 2011 06:34 |  #21

not sure if you're in exactly the same situations but i find in natural light & backlit with the sun i have no troubles whatsoever with focus/portraits.


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Aug 02, 2011 11:13 |  #22

I still has problem with this, yesterday I wanted to take a picture of a girl in a tunnel and the sun low and strong backlight in the tunnel that was dark. I used a flash two light up the model but the focus fail many time and the model was not still so useing live view/ MF was impossible.

I found this one

http://www.hkyongnuo.c​om/e-detail.php?ID=277 (external link)

Anyone know if this can force the AF-assist light?




  
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Aug 02, 2011 11:29 |  #23

I posted a thread asking about the YN unit and was told that the AF assist beam was pretty weak sauce. Get an EG-S screen and manually focus. While it's not too uncommon for me to shoot into the sun, I can't say I've ever had an issue where the camera simply wouldn't focus; it just took a bit longer.


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Aug 02, 2011 11:35 |  #24

jonas18z wrote in post #12863696 (external link)
I still has problem with this, yesterday I wanted to take a picture of a girl in a tunnel and the sun low and strong backlight in the tunnel that was dark. I used a flash two light up the model but the focus fail many time and the model was not still so useing live view/ MF was impossible.

I found this one

http://www.hkyongnuo.c​om/e-detail.php?ID=277 (external link)

Anyone know if this can force the AF-assist light?

You could try having an assistant hold a flashlight ("torch" in the UK) beam on the subject so that your autofocus has something to trigger on. If you are using flash lighting within the tunnel, that should over-ride the little beam of light you use for focusing.


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You could try having an assistant hold a flashlight ("torch" in the UK) beam on the subject so that your autofocus has something to trigger on. If you are using flash lighting within the tunnel, that should over-ride the little beam of light you use for focusing.

Yes I could try that or maybe I use a litepanel with batteries insteed.... .




  
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Dec 31, 2013 08:46 as a reply to  @ jonas18z's post |  #26

I'm glad I found this thread. Same problem with my T4i even with landscape. Say I'm shooting a sunset with a (dark) mountain at the bottom of the frame. I choose the bottom-center AF point and the camera won't focus. I can push the shutter release as many times as I want, it won't do it.

In this case, I can't light the subject because it's too far away. So, manual focus would be the solution?


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jonas18z wrote in post #12093712 (external link)
I need a very powerful flashlight and has to be around 5000k, that would mean some hmi-light. It's very expensive and heavy compared to a 580exii
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The color temperature of the flashlight is irrelevant. Light subject. Focus. TURN OFF FLASHLIGHT. Press shutter. Let an assistant handle the flashlight and this won't even slow you down.


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Dec 31, 2013 12:20 |  #28

I must say I have not noticed this issue on any of my cameras.

How many stops between the backlight an the subject?


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Dec 31, 2013 14:35 |  #29

virginie24jb wrote in post #16566424 (external link)
I'm glad I found this thread. Same problem with my T4i even with landscape. Say I'm shooting a sunset with a (dark) mountain at the bottom of the frame. I choose the bottom-center AF point and the camera won't focus. I can push the shutter release as many times as I want, it won't do it.

In this case, I can't light the subject because it's too far away. So, manual focus would be the solution?

You don't need autofocus in this situation, just focus at hyper-focal distance.


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Dec 31, 2013 15:46 |  #30

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You don't need autofocus in this situation, just focus at hyper-focal distance.

I'm sorry, what do you mean by "at hyper-focal distance"?


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