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Mar 26, 2011 18:03 |  #316

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Because Cooler Master PSU's scare me.
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Also, because of this (external link).

I'm aware of Corsairs 1200W monster.....As you said, it's also quite expensive.

....Oh, and why so Coolermaster PSU's scare you? Bad experience?


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Mar 26, 2011 18:03 |  #317

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Yeah...

Don't need to rival the Pentagon for computer power.

maybe not with processing power but with back up and storage drives on board you'd come close :lol:


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Mar 26, 2011 18:04 |  #318

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It comes with a carrying case? :shock:

:lol: Yeah... it does.

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Lights dimming all over greater Phoenix? :lol:

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I'm aware of Corsairs 1200W monster.....As you said, it's also quite expensive.

....Oh, and why so Coolermaster PSU's scare you? Bad experience?

Cooler Master PSU's used to be cheap and unreliable PSU's. I still can't get over that.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:05 |  #319

Haven't heard anything bad about these Collermaster PSU that I can recall.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:13 |  #320

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Haven't heard anything bad about these Collermaster PSU that I can recall.

That and I'd rather pay an extra $100 or so for a more power, more efficient and 100% modular PSU, and what is just one of the best PSU's on the market. Especially when you are hooking up $2500 worth of hardware to it.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:25 |  #321

Just one side note:
The Intel G2 SSDs have 34nm NAND which they pretty much guarantee to last for 5 years at 20GB per day (I'm within that range with mine).
Officially they will talk about 1000-2000 write cycles, but they should be as high as 10.000 for the Intel G2s.

Newer SSDs with smaller fabrication processes will have fewer write cycles - you are possibly looking at 3000-4000 for 25nm on Intel I think....

Head here for some great SSD chatter :)
http://forums.storager​eview.com/index.php (external link)

The SSD section on Notebookreview is good too - the current consensus is, that OCZ is best avoided.
http://forum.notebookr​eview.com …rives-ssds-flash-storage/ (external link)


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Mar 26, 2011 18:26 |  #322

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That and I'd rather pay an extra $100 or so for a more power, more efficient and 100% modular PSU, and what is just one of the best PSU's on the market. Especially when you are hooking up $2500 worth of hardware to it.

I personally don't think you could go wrong either way......But hey, if you've got the money to do it, why not. The Corsair is a great PSU. ;)


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Mar 26, 2011 18:27 |  #323

You don't really every have to worry about write cycles on current SSD's. Most people use them as OS/Program drives so there is very little writing taking place anyway. That and sure it may die 10 years down the road, but you won't be using it then anyway.

You're right about OCZ right now... I'm hoping the vertex 3's will be better. OCZ kind of goes in and out when it comes to reliability.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:28 |  #324

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I personally don't think you could go wrong either way......But hey, if you've got the money to do it, why not. The Corsair is a great PSU. ;)

It's better than great. :p

But you're right, I've seen quite a few people using that Cooler Master gold and they have no issues with it.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:30 |  #325

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It's better than great. :p

Hehe.....I'm tired. That was the first word that popped into my head.

Think I'll head to bed (working graveyard shift still), I'm going cross-eyed looking at the screen. LOL :lol:


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Mar 26, 2011 18:31 |  #326

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Hehe.....I'm tired. That was the first word that popped into my head.

Think I'll head to bed (working graveyard shift still), I'm going cross-eyed looking at the screen. LOL :lol:

I'm just giving you a hard time. :p

Well if you do go to bed, good "night"... or something like that.


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Mar 26, 2011 18:31 |  #327

So, RAID can be "Mirrored" or "Striped" right?

Advantages / Disadvantages of each flavor?


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Mar 26, 2011 18:32 |  #328

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I'm just giving you a hard time. :p

Well if you do go to bed, good "night"... or something like that.

Hehe.....I know man. :cool:

Talk to you all later!


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Mar 26, 2011 18:35 |  #329

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Mar 26, 2011 18:37 |  #330

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You don't really every have to worry about write cycles on current SSD's. Most people use them as OS/Program drives so there is very little writing taking place anyway. That and sure it may die 10 years down the road, but you won't be using it then anyway.

You're right about OCZ right now... I'm hoping the vertex 3's will be better. OCZ kind of goes in and out when it comes to reliability.

Well, you will have your current files on it as well - and I recently found a potential SSD killer - Virtual Machines, every time you suspend them they write to the SSD.

Besides that, if I buy a SSD for 400€ I'd like it to last - possibly longer than a HDD. (especially in a laptop where HDDs are prone to failure due to impacts)
I don't want to be forced to buy a new SSD just because the manufacturers could increase their profit by selling me inferior technology.
(and yes, I view the 25/20nm NAND as inferior because it has fewer write cycles compared to 34nm NAND, the solution might be to go SLC flash (up to 100.000 write cycles) instead of MLC flash, but then the SLC SSDs cost a lot more for a lot less space, the 64GB Intel costs more than twice as much compared to the 160GB G2)

On the Intel G2 I don't worry about write cycles - but when I hear reduced to 3000-4000 max...hmm, that doesn't sound too good any more.
Yes, it is still a lot, but those people who really benefit from a SSD are those that read and write a lot of data, i.e. those that will use up those cycles the quickest.

I also saw a comment once that small writes wear out the drive more quickly - i.e. sub 4K writes, but I couldn't find it again, apparently 2TB of that could be enough to wear out an Intel G2... Mine has reached 6,7TB (yikes, I seem to be speeding up) and I've had it since the end of November 2009 - so nearly 1,5 years now, and I'm not the heaviest user.


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