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Anyone use Alien Skin Bokeh 2?

 
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Mar 27, 2011 22:02 |  #1

I hate using primes but I do like doing portrait with very thin DOF. Bokeh2 seems to be the solution. Anyone have experience using it?


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Mar 27, 2011 22:15 |  #2

Yes, I use it mainly in sports beause its a little less noticable but I have used it in several of my portraits and it is awesome, produces a truly naturl looking bokeh. Here is a example I done with a sports pic


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Mar 29, 2011 10:36 |  #3

Hi Jordan,

This is pretty cool. About how much effort does this take in the above photo? Thanks.


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Mar 29, 2011 11:04 |  #4

I've used both Alien Skin Bokeh 2 and OnOne Focalpoint 2, and I find FocalPoint to be more versatile because of it's brush ability. You can create a gradient that FocalPoint will then apply the blurring to - which is useful to make more realistic DOF.

Bokeh 2 doesn't have the ability to selectively brush in/out areas of blurring, but it has the cool ability to create different shaped-highlights, which would be good for certain creative effects - not realistic but creative.

Otherwise the two programs are very similar - bokeh 2 seems faster though. But I think the ability to brush in areas of focus/blurring is a must-have feature personally.


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Mar 29, 2011 13:21 |  #5

chantu wrote in post #12116336 (external link)
Hi Jordan,

This is pretty cool. About how much effort does this take in the above photo? Thanks.

That was as simple as taking my magnetic wond and selecting what I wanted to keep in focus and then running the program. Maybe 15 min to get it just the way I wanted. Alien Skin has several tutorial videos on their site that are very very easy to follow and they show you just about all the program will do... I think all those are here http://www.alienskin.c​om/bokeh/Bokeh-tutorials.aspx (external link) the "Selections in PS" & "Depth of Field" were what I watched to make this one


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Mar 29, 2011 14:00 |  #6

If you look there seems to be somewhat of a fuzzy "halo" around the players.


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Mar 29, 2011 14:17 |  #7

I noticed that whenever I worked on this, I'm not sure where it came from, I think I could probably go back and erase it. Could it have possibly came from my "feathering" whenever I sleected out what I wanted to keep in focus from the bokeh?


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Mar 29, 2011 14:32 |  #8

You can also achieve a similar result within Photoshop using Lens Blur.
I think the halo around the image is probably due to a few missed pixels in the mask, so they got blurred in with the background.


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Mar 29, 2011 14:50 |  #9
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Are Bokeh2 and FocalPoit plug-ins to Lightroom or Photoshop?


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Mar 29, 2011 15:03 |  #10

Not sure about FocalPoit, Bokeh is a Photoshop filter


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Mar 29, 2011 15:31 |  #11

What about CS5's "lens blur"? I experimented with that one and got some very realistic looking faux bokeh, not to mention the ability to make realistic shifting DOF using gradients and masks. How does bokeh2 stack up against it?


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Mar 29, 2011 16:08 |  #12

The fuzzy halo you see is because, I'm guessing, they applied the blurring to the entire photo, and then used layers and then masked back the foreground subjects. By applying blurring to the entire photo, they also effectively blurred the subjects in the foreground, creating a halo around them.

That's why you want to make a selection of the area to be blurred, and then have the plugin only blur that selection. I do that all the time with FocalPoint - it can work with selections. I don't think Bokeh 2 can work with selections but I haven't tried.


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Mar 29, 2011 16:11 |  #13

Yasko wrote in post #12118529 (external link)
What about CS5's "lens blur"? I experimented with that one and got some very realistic looking faux bokeh, not to mention the ability to make realistic shifting DOF using gradients and masks. How does bokeh2 stack up against it?

Some people will say the blurring from these plugins are effectively the same as PS's own blurring - I can't say since I haven't done extensive testing.

But the plugins have their own features that PS doesn't have - like FocalPoint's selective brushing of blurring (and the brushing effect is additive, so some areas that you want slightly blurred would get a few brushes, while others that you want to be sharp, get lots of brushing, etc.), or Bokeh's creative highlights.


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Mar 29, 2011 16:14 |  #14
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I wish Nik's ColorEfex Pro 3.0's blur feature worked better.


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Mar 29, 2011 16:36 |  #15

I like Focal Point, although my version does not work well with CS5 ( Mac Mini ).

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