Glamour Retouching Class

Not often do I attend a course or workshop were I'm blown away by what's being taugh and by how to achieve that what's being taught. Sunday was an exception.

This past weekend I attended a 3.5 hour glamour retouching class by CRW Media (Professional Photo Retouching - Glamour, Bridal and more | CRWmedia LLC). We were taught how to get that amazing magazine cover result in a very simple and easy way to do it. We used about about half a dozen basic photoshop tools to achieve that final look and the results were absolutely amazing. The simplicity is what's genius about it. I'm by no means a PS guru so this was right up my alley.

I am by no means affiliated to this organization and benefit in no way at all by endorsing them. But regardless, I would like to recommend CRWMedia and Christine (our instructor) (Professional Photo Retouching - Glamour, Bridal and more | CRWmedia LLC). If you want to learn a VERY effective and simple way to edit your portraits with photoshop and achieve magazine quality results in just a few hours, attend Christine's class when she's in your area, I guarantee you wont regret it.

R.

What kind of goodies did you get and can you show your before/ afters.

Show us some examples and maybe even the process behind it to prove this workshop worthy of our time / money. Because I wouldn't want to attend a lecture giving newbie advice on how to use the brush and blur tool.

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Swift wrote in post #12132326
Show us some examples and maybe even the process behind it to prove this workshop worthy of our time / money. Because I wouldn't want to attend a lecture giving newbie advice on how to use the brush and blur tool.

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Or worse.. How to buy and install actions.

I can understand that. You can see the before/after on the site. This course is great for those people that photoshop is not their second language. But at the end of the day each one has to do their own due diligence to find out if what they are getting is for them, all I'm doing is sharing my positive experience.
As with everything else, take what is applicable to you and put it in your toolbox, the rest you can discard.

I walked away IMO with an effective way to retouch portraits. I haven't had a chance to apply what we were show, hopefully soon.
Prior to me taking this class I watched others do the same thing and ultimately achieve the same results in a very long and drawn out process. Now... is there more than one way to skin a cat, absolutely, but IMO, i found her's to be very effective.

She began with an image from her site and covered covered all the editing steps to achieve the end result.
She also provides you with a manual with each step covered in the class so you don't have to memorize the whole thing.

I can't give the class or type out the process, but in a nut shell she demonstrated IMO a very effective way to edit images without spending 2 hours on each image.

R.

I think you are thinking things way out of proportion. I, for one, certainly do not take two hours on one photo for processing. I'm not sure where you even get this astronomical figure, from. Normally, it should only take about half an hour to effectively derive the final image. I never spend more than ten minutes on one photo..I think this lady drew you in with a myth.

Swift wrote in post #12132723
I never spend more than ten minutes on one photo..I think this lady drew you in with a myth.

You can finish a photo in 10 minutes because of the kind of retouching you do and the quality standards you adhere to. But you shouldn't assume that others do your kind of retouching or follow your standards. High-end retouchers often spend several hours on a single image. For intricate composites, the time can run to several days. Your generalizations are much too sweeping to be accurate.

Peano wrote in post #12132802
You can finish a photo in 10 minutes because of the kind of retouching you do and the quality standards you adhere to. But you shouldn't assume that others do your kind of retouching or follow your standards. High-end retouchers often spend several hours on a single image. For intricate composites, the time can run to several days. Your generalizations are much too sweeping to be accurate.

My generalizations are based on the demographics of the majority of photographers -- who happen to be amateurs; not "high-end retouchers." Therefore, you can expect an amateur not to spend hours on processing for these "intricate composites."

I wasn't saying everyone in the world only takes ten minutes to finish a photo. However, as the OP stated, this workshop is intended for the beginners to Photoshop and not the "high-end retouchers." Certainly a "professional" wouldn't waste their time at a workshop to learn basic retouching techniques.

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Peano wrote in post #12132802
You can finish a photo in 10 minutes because of the kind of retouching you do and the quality standards you adhere to. But you shouldn't assume that others do your kind of retouching or follow your standards. High-end retouchers often spend several hours on a single image. For intricate composites, the time can run to several days. Your generalizations are much too sweeping to be accurate.

^^^^^What Peano said.

I'm not high-end, but I am involved somewhat in retouching. 10 minutes would barely get me started on a portrait.

Swift wrote in post #12132865
My generalizations are based on the demographics of the majority of photographers...

What is the source of your demographics? I'd like to see them.

I didn't suggest that you were saying that. My point was that you leaped to a hasty conclusion:

From the fact that YOU only spend 10 minutes per image, it hardly follows that the instructor is dealing in myth.

D Thompson wrote in post #12132929
^^^^^What Peano said.

I'm not high-end, but I am involved somewhat in retouching. 10 minutes would barely get me started on a portrait.

Yeah, I'm purely an amateur shooting for fun but 10 minutes into a portrait or glamour shot and I'm still barely warmed up in many cases. I rarely spend two hours, I admit, but it certainly isn't unknown and can sometimes be even longer.

Peano wrote in post #12132933
What is the source of your demographics? I'd like to see them.

I didn't suggest that you were saying that. My point was that you leaped to a hasty conclusion:


From the fact that YOU only spend 10 minutes per image, it hardly follows that the instructor is dealing in myth.

No source, just take a look around this forum : )

My 'hasty conclusion' spawns from placing myself into the 'amateur photographer' category. As i'm now categorized, I therefore automatically designate myself the spokesperson for the entire amateur photography population in the United States.

I think the whole point of the OP is being missed.

I just wanted to convey my possitive experience with this class. Whether someone spends 10 minutes, 2 hours or a week on an image, I just thought I would share my experience and put the information our there. It's up to each individual to figure out if this is for them or not, but we can't do that if we don't even know it's out there.

R.

rickp1 wrote in post #12133268
I think the whole point of the OP is being missed.

I just wanted to convey my possitive experience with this class. Whether someone spends 10 minutes, 2 hours or a week on an image, I just thought I would share my experience and put the information our there. It's up to each individual to figure out if this is for them or not, but we can't do that if we don't even know it's out there.

R.

My impression was that this is your main point:

(taken from OP)

You can see where the rest of the conversation originated from, based off of this quote.

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slimninj4 wrote in post #12132302
What kind of goodies did you get and can you show your before/ afters.

I would be interested as well in seeing a few before and afters.