Can you stack 1.4xII with another 1.4xII and only lose 2 stops of light? If yes, wouldn't this actually be better than having only 2xII and losing 2 stops? Should the IQ take major hit if two 1.4x II's are stacked? At least the FL is 2.8x not 2x...
joonrhee Goldmember 3,897 posts Likes: 639 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Mar 29, 2011 17:43 | #1 Can you stack 1.4xII with another 1.4xII and only lose 2 stops of light? If yes, wouldn't this actually be better than having only 2xII and losing 2 stops? Should the IQ take major hit if two 1.4x II's are stacked? At least the FL is 2.8x not 2x... a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
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gotaudi Senior Member 720 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Southern California More info | Mar 29, 2011 17:56 | #2 its actually 1.96X when stacked
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Mar 29, 2011 18:06 | #3 You cannot stack two Canon 1.4x teleconvertors, as they have front elements which project forward too far to fit in the backside of another 1.4x teleconvertors. (You can stack a Kenko 1.4x behind a Canon 1.4x.) You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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joonrhee THREAD STARTER Goldmember 3,897 posts Likes: 639 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Mar 29, 2011 18:10 | #4 That is right gotaudi... and thanks for the confirmation Wilt. a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
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gasrocks Cream of the Crop 13,432 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA More info | Apr 01, 2011 08:40 | #5 When they say it is a 1.4x Tc they actually meant square root of 2 and abbrev. 2 1.4x TCs is the same as a 2x TC. More glass though. Shooting wide open the 2x TC will be better, stopped down a ways it is a horse race. You can stack Kenko and Tamron TCs. GEAR LIST
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joonrhee THREAD STARTER Goldmember 3,897 posts Likes: 639 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Apr 01, 2011 09:02 | #6 Just out of curiosity, Canon 1.4x II + Kenko 1.4 is better than Canon 2x II? I just don't like the amount of IQ degradation when used with Canon 2x II & III... a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
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I realize your questions are in regards to using the Canon extenders but i did recently perform some rather extensive testing using the Kenko converters and a Vivitar 2x MC7 that gasrocks mailed me for testing also. Silverfox1 POTN Feedback / TC Extender Tests / Gear List
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Apr 01, 2011 10:25 | #8 Since Silverfox1 posted results with stacking 2x and 1.4x teleconvertors, I will offer the results of stacking two 1.4x teleconvertors, with 70-200mm f/4 IS lens...camera position moved to keep subject fixed in size for direct comparison reasons. Canon 1.4x: Canon 1.4x+Kenko 1.4x stacked: You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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joonrhee THREAD STARTER Goldmember 3,897 posts Likes: 639 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Apr 01, 2011 11:37 | #9 Thank you Silverfox1 and Wilt. a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Apr 01, 2011 12:20 | #10 You are already looking at only about 10% of the frame ...the (artificial) flower filled the center circle of the viewfinder -- it is what I used as the way to determine 'same size' as I moved the camera back with increased FL. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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joonrhee THREAD STARTER Goldmember 3,897 posts Likes: 639 Joined Oct 2009 Location: Southern California More info | Apr 01, 2011 12:49 | #11 Hey Wilt, then they look pretty darn good to me! How would you rate Canon 1.4x + Kenko 1.4x VS Canon 2x? a7RII • a7C • V12 • L21 • S24GM • S85
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Wilt Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1] More info | Apr 01, 2011 12:54 | #12 joonrhee wrote in post #12138634 Hey Wilt, then they look pretty darn good to me! How would you rate Canon 1.4x + Kenko 1.4x VS Canon 2x? I cannot comment, having no experience with the 2x teleconvertors on my lens. It would be speculation. You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.php
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gasrocks Cream of the Crop 13,432 posts Likes: 2 Joined Mar 2005 Location: Portage, Wisconsin USA More info | Apr 01, 2011 12:59 | #13 If you are stopping down the lens a bit - the combo you mentioned will be just fine. I used to have 2 identical Tamron SP 1.4x TCs for that reason - they fit everything and can be stacked. GEAR LIST
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Apr 01, 2011 13:32 | #14 joonrhee wrote in post #12138634 Hey Wilt, then they look pretty darn good to me! How would you rate Canon 1.4x + Kenko 1.4x VS Canon 2x? Just remember your best IQ when either stacking two 1.4 TC`s or a single 2x on a fixed f2.8 lens will be F8.0 & F11.0 Silverfox1 POTN Feedback / TC Extender Tests / Gear List
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RefreshImage Senior Member 557 posts Joined Jan 2011 More info | Apr 01, 2011 13:40 | #15 Permanent banjoonrhee wrote in post #12119546 Can you stack 1.4xII with another 1.4xII and only lose 2 stops of light? If yes, wouldn't this actually be better than having only 2xII and losing 2 stops? Should the IQ take major hit if two 1.4x II's are stacked? At least the FL is 2.8x not 2x... Sure, it is even better to use 1.x extensers. Each does not loose any stops and does not intorduce any quality loss because it is 1.x. Since you do not need to do anything to get that 1.x magnification you virtually already have as many 1.x extenders as you need. They all have zero length and weight zero lbs.
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