Canon EOS 7D + 24L Vs. Fujifilm Finepix X100 - 100% Crops

For the 3200 ISO, The ISO between the two, side by side on my computer screen, looks very similar. The Fuji images have som weird compression the noise in the background has artifacts. I am not sure if this is because of the way you saved them or what, but it is quite disgusting.

That being said, the 7D CLEARLY captures more detail and color in the denim pants behind the tripod. The thread is yellow on the 7D, and WHITE on the fuji, not to mention it kind sof disappears in the fabric.

The 7D took a more detailed, color accurate image.

In the 6400 ISO, same thing, no artifacts here though. But as I states earlier, the 7D pulled more detail out of the fabric, as well as maintained color accuracy. While the COLOR of the noise is more attractive on the Fuji on the 6400, the intensity of it seems worse to me.

sbattey wrote in post #12167815
For the 3200 ISO, The ISO between the two, side by side on my computer screen, looks very similar. The Fuji images have som weird compression the noise in the background has artifacts. I am not sure if this is because of the way you saved them or what, but it is quite disgusting.

That being said, the 7D CLEARLY captures more detail and color in the denim pants behind the tripod. The thread is yellow on the 7D, and WHITE on the fuji, not to mention it kind sof disappears in the fabric.

The 7D took a more detailed, color accurate image.

In the 6400 ISO, same thing, no artifacts here though. But as I states earlier, the 7D pulled more detail out of the fabric, as well as maintained color accuracy. While the COLOR of the noise is more attractive on the Fuji on the 6400, the intensity of it seems worse to me.

First of all, actually that's the 5D mark ii. The 7D is yet to come. It's out for repair - will come soon though
Second of all, does any agree with this claim regarding the artifacts at ISO 3200. I see the same thing with the 5D Mark II - just a little less noticeable but it's there.

You are definitely right about the white/yellow thread at the ISO 6400 shot. I'm SURE that the 7D will fair WORST than the Fuji X100 which is why I posted this thread. But when the 7D arrives, I might just eat my words! STAY TUNED!

Marloon wrote in post #12167824
First of all, actually that's the 5D mark ii. The 7D is yet to come. It's out for repair - will come soon though
Second of all, does any agree with this claim regarding the artifacts at ISO 3200. I see the same thing with the 5D Mark II - just a little less noticeable but it's there.

You are definitely right about the white/yellow thread at the ISO 6400 shot. I'm SURE that the 7D will fair WORST than the Fuji X100 which is why I posted this thread. But when the 7D arrives, I might just eat my words! STAY TUNED!

My mistake, yes I was comparing the 5D. Woops.

Anyway, there are clear artifacts in some of the Jpegs not related to ISO. This needs to be corrected.

sbattey wrote in post #12167869
My mistake, yes I was comparing the 5D. Woops.

Anyway, there are clear artifacts in some of the Jpegs not related to ISO. This needs to be corrected.

I agree with you there. there's a bit of artifacts at ISO 3200 on the Fujifilm X100 but it disappears at ISO 6400. The noise is quite grain like on the X100 but on the 5D it's very digital. Wonder what the 5D classic produces. Maybe I'll introduce a 5D classic, 7D, 5D mark II, 1D3 and X100 detail comparison. I might as well right? I'm wondering how am I going to compress these shots into a 1024 by 1024 px photos. LOL.

By the way you were talking in the other thread, I expected better. Sure the x100 takes pictures, however, I'm noticing noise @ 1600. Upper right corner where the painted wall can be seen, and below the jeans in the grey area.

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Honestly the way you cursed the 7D and said the X100 would blow it out of the water at any given moment, I was expecting a lot more.
Don't take me wrong.. the results are good.. but having a slightly bigger sensor, lower pixel density and using a fast prime projected for this body only, the results are good but not stellar.
I'd still take my 7D over it for the versatility it gives.. even if it loses in noise performance.... but I'm on the market for a compact for traveling... your post has given me a good option!

Alex_Venom wrote in post #12169215
I'd still take my 7D over it for the versatility it gives.. even if it loses in noise performance.... but I'm on the market for a compact for traveling... your post has given me a good option!

I'd LOVE to have an x100 for family outings and traveling and such.... The performance looks great! However, I too was expecting something that would blow away the 7D the way he was talking.

Shows the comparison of the two camera's built in jpg noise reduction... but how do the raws compare?

Alex_Venom wrote in post #12169215
Honestly the way you cursed the 7D and said the X100 would blow it out of the water at any given moment, I was expecting a lot more.
Don't take me wrong.. the results are good.. but having a slightly bigger sensor, lower pixel density and using a fast prime projected for this body only, the results are good but not stellar.
I'd still take my 7D over it for the versatility it gives.. even if it loses in noise performance.... but I'm on the market for a compact for traveling... your post has given me a good option!

The 7D does offer versatility and FAST af response - which at times, I wish the 5Dii had. But I was after its high ISO performance and it still disappointed me in that aspect making it unusable in events for me (my target market seems to want to party in lighting conditions similar to that of a cave).

And you are right - the X100 is a great travel companion! Finally, I don't have to take my DSLR everywhere I go. I can leave it at home and maintain its shutter life. I believe the 5Dii has been sitting at 50,000 actuations now and the 7D is still at 2000-3000. I've owned the 5D since September, 09 and the 7D since February, 10.

Stamp wrote in post #12169286
I'd LOVE to have an x100 for family outings and traveling and such.... The performance looks great! However, I too was expecting something that would blow away the 7D the way he was talking.

The 7D is not here yet. I will post up images ASAP. Is everyone happy with the f4.0 setting?

7D @ f4
X100 @ f4
5D @ f6.3
In-camera NR set to LOW.
Auto WB
Aperture Priority
2 sec timer

Rai33 wrote in post #12169344
Shows the comparison of the two camera's built in jpg noise reduction... but how do the raws compare?

Unfortunately, there is currently no raw support for the fujifilm X100 asides from their included software - which I don't care to install. I will be waiting for the LR support.

I think for what the x100 is I'd say its amazing considering you can virtually put it in your pocket. The market for the x100 is not for a person wanting to swap lenses from a 24L to long tele.

I took family pics between my 1dmk3 and x100. I will say at ISO 1600 the x100 destroys the 1dmk3. Personally the 7D and 1dmk3 is far from being high ISO performers. I'll except that new tech is gonna be better. My 1dmk3 files fell apart while the x100 retained more eyelash separation detail and amazing tonality. The 1dmk3 at ISO 2500 was dreadful compared to the x100. I've used the 7D and I'm absolutley certain that the x100 is scary good if you compare the two.

Interesting to see how many defend camera bodies. My 5dmk2 does have banding but I can shoot all day long at ISO 3200 and be fine with it. My 1dmk3 look horrible after ISO 2000 in challenging light unless I do crafty NR and PP. My 5dc is better in ISO performance than the 1dmk3 but has much better tonality and meters by far better than the 1dmk3. Looking at files I've taken with a 7D I'd say ISO 1250 is the limit for me and anything above the files falls apart and NR and crafty PP must be applied. I'm actually not really impressed with the 7D's iso performance if you compare to a 5dmk2 for slow/non moving portrait subjects. If I was a sports shooter thats a different story.

The x100 actually scares me in how well it performs in low light and automatic ISO selection.

Marloon wrote in post #12169445
. Is everyone happy with the f4.0 setting?

7D @ f4
X100 @ f4
5D @ f6.3
In-camera NR set to LOW.
Auto WB
Aperture Priority
2 sec timer

Why the f6.3 for the 5D? DOF difference between the crop and full frame I'm assuming? I'd say keep the aperture the same between them all, and spot focus on the same thing. What do others think?

Rai33 wrote in post #12169344
Shows the comparison of the two camera's built in jpg noise reduction... but how do the raws compare?

This is what I would like to see as well. Not because I'm a 7D fanboy, but just out of curiosity.

Marloon wrote in post #12169445
Unfortunately, there is currently no raw support for the fujifilm X100 asides from their included software - which I don't care to install. I will be waiting for the LR support.

Aaah

AlanU wrote in post #12169454
I think for what the x100 is I'd say its amazing considering you can virtually put it in your pocket. The market for the x100 is not for a person wanting to swap lenses from a 24L to long tele.

I took family pics between my 1dmk3 and x100. I will say at ISO 1600 the x100 destroys the 1dmk3. Personally the 7D and 1dmk3 is far from being high ISO performers. I'll except that new tech is gonna be better. My 1dmk3 files fell apart while the x100 retained more eyelash separation detail and amazing tonality. The 1dmk3 at ISO 2500 was dreadful compared to the x100. I've used the 7D and I'm absolutley certain that the x100 is scary good if you compare the two.

Interesting to see how many defend camera bodies. My 5dmk2 does have banding but I can shoot all day long at ISO 3200 and be fine with it. My 1dmk3 look horrible after ISO 2000 in challenging light unless I do crafty NR and PP. My 5dc is better in ISO performance than the 1dmk3 but has much better tonality and meters by far better than the 1dmk3. Looking at files I've taken with a 7D I'd say ISO 1250 is the limit for me and anything above the files falls apart and NR and crafty PP must be applied. I'm actually not really impressed with the 7D's iso performance if you compare to a 5dmk2 for slow/non moving portrait subjects. If I was a sports shooter thats a different story.

The x100 actually scares me in how well it performs in low light and automatic ISO selection.

While I agree with your previous posts regarding the 1D3's ordinary AWB... my experience has been very different with high ISO performance. In fact I find it to be very close to my 1D4 at the pixel level. It's possible you have a poor copy.

That is damn impressive

Rai33 wrote in post #12169720
Aaah

While I agree with your previous posts regarding the 1D3's ordinary AWB... my experience has been very different with high ISO performance. In fact I find it to be very close to my 1D4 at the pixel level. It's possible you have a poor copy.

Rai,

can you please show me an example? link? PM if you can. I'm on the fence of selling the body because of its nature of the product/natural characteristics. I know others that have identical characterisics in their 1dmk3 bodies. Infact a friend of mine that works at a camera shop states the exact same characteristics and he's had a tonne of equipment in his personal possesion.

If this is the case I better kick this camera over to platinum cps.

This fuji x100 is a rude awakening interms of killer ISO performance.