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Apr 05, 2011 22:47 |  #1

I have a nice Eastern blue bird picture but unfortunately this was captured in harsh sunlight and there is branch shadow on the bird from neck to tail.

I need to remove that shadow from the birds back.

Can you guys help me? I am very new to Post processing.

Thanks in advance for the help.


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Apr 05, 2011 22:49 |  #2

duplicate the layer in PS, set to multiply and mask out the parts you dont' want?

Hard to say without an example to look at.




  
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Apr 05, 2011 22:58 as a reply to  @ svarley's post |  #3

Thanks for your help.

Here is the picture I was talking about.


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Apr 06, 2011 00:48 |  #4

Yikes! I don't know what to suggest!

There are some Photoshop experts here, masters in things like retouching photos, doing great jobs at cloning and such, maybe they can help...

I'm no expert at those things, and if it were my photo, the most I woud do is do what I could to boost the shadows enough to bring out some detail there. Trying a "fancy" approach would, for me, risk blotching the rest of the detail on the body of the bird, something I would avoid like the plague!

But in a Raw processor you can boost shadows, or with something more advanced you can do that selectively.

What software do you have for your editing?


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Apr 06, 2011 09:43 |  #5

it is a nice picture...hard to say...it would take very looong time to do what you want...to do a good job removing the shadow...




  
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Apr 06, 2011 09:54 |  #6

svarley wrote in post #12167058 (external link)
duplicate the layer in PS, set to multiply and mask out the parts you dont' want?.

That's an option, but you'll need more then one layer.

Quick and dirty:

IMAGE: https://img.skitch.com/20110406-d5fnft7pc9k6sug9hjxgkyq5uk.jpg

You'd get a better result (if you shot raw) by developing the Raw twice.
If you use a smart object, it's easier to adjust exposure on the top (lighter) layer, but you probably need a more then a stop brightening in the shadow area.

Again, quick and dirty, opening the jpg as a Smart Object through ACR:

IMAGE: https://img.skitch.com/20110406-n8rayef5uhm8yu9437grbsyeut.jpg


The transition will not be easy to get right, and you might need to do a bit of cloning / healing to get rid of it.

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Apr 06, 2011 14:15 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #7

Just a suggestion: It would take less time to capture another bluebird than to fix this image, because it needs a lot more work
than just the shadow. That bright, vertical band in the background is a deal-breaker and needs to be cloned out. So is the branch
on the left that merges with the bird's bill.

IMAGE: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1206/bluebirdnotes.jpg

As for the shadow, if you're a novice at retouching, this won't be of much help, but others my want to play with it. My approach
was first a hue/sat adj layer in screen mode with "colorize" ticked. Adjust hue and saturation. Black mask on that and paint with
white on the shadow, blending it at the bright edges. Above that, a blank layer in soft light mode. Paint with white or light blue to
brighten further. If I were playing for keeps with a large image, I would do another layer or two like that and use some lighter and darker
tones to add some texture back into the shadow area.

If it were my picture, I'd toss this one and go for another shot. Fixing this one might be good practice, but I think it has too many problems
to make it worth trying to salvage for print.

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Apr 06, 2011 21:44 |  #8

Listen to the people. Toss it away.
Plenty of little blue bird out there.
More than that, you missed the focus on this one.




  
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Apr 06, 2011 23:48 |  #9

I guess we should ask "Why do you need to do this?". Is it worth the work and loss of IQ? Do you hope to print it large enough to show that loss of IQ? Is it possible that you can go for another bird shot that won't have this problem?

Just show you know, I think some of the best small bird shots I've seen have been from people who have set up bird feeders of different types in a setting close enough to grab a shot from, say, an open window or door. They set up branches as perches so they can get a capture that "looks natural" but after looking at many such images, you kinda know:)! It's not like encountering a bald eagle in the wild, but at least you are putting forth a creative effort!


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Apr 10, 2011 10:23 |  #10

Thanks everyone. Your comments and suggestions really helped me learn a lot about PP.

I agree, it really is difficult to correct this picture. I have few good keepers of this bird but I asked this Question as I am very frequently in this situation where just a spot of shadow ruins my efforts.


Thanks everyone for your help.


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Apr 10, 2011 11:10 |  #11

tcssas wrote in post #12193935 (external link)
I agree, it really is difficult to correct this picture. I have few good keepers of this bird but I asked this Question as I am very frequently in this situation where just a spot of shadow ruins my efforts.

I think it goes with the territory. Birds are really difficult to shoot well. I work with one photographer who is an ace at birds, but it takes her hundreds of shots to get just a few keepers. You can find useful guidance at birdphotographers.net (external link).


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Apr 10, 2011 18:58 |  #12

Really appreciate your help...trying to learn the DPP with new CS5...I would like to take one step at a time and hence first thing first...Want to learn some standard steps to create effective workflow for underexposed and overexposed images...


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Apr 10, 2011 19:25 |  #13

best choice is to toss it and shoot other one. harsh, but the best way.


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Apr 10, 2011 20:32 |  #14

I did shoot another few pictures today. As it was a very cloudy and gloomy day and came home with underexposed files...

shot nothing but blue birds :-)

Now trying hard to bring out the details from those underexposed RAW file.

If I fail I will turn to all you masters of DPP on the forum for help...Thanks


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Apr 10, 2011 20:51 |  #15

Well, yes, a good exposure is the best place to start!

But, as you are learning the Raw workflow, I'd say don't just toss things but use them as a learning project. Learn to use the DPP tools, and then learn to use similar tools in CS5/Camer Raw, and over time you will find effective approaches to all kinds of images.

Check out our RAW Conversion Thread for a whole lot of great "projects" posted by many members to share with all what is possible with Raw and Raw processing!


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