DPP RAW Saving Issue?

Hi folks,

I am having a problem with DPP saving raw files.

I open my CR2 image and make my adjustments and then I select convert and save and save the image to my desktop so I can find it ok.

When I open the saved image to look at, it looks really soft and doesn't look anything like the adjusted image. I actually think it's showing as the original image.

Any ideas - I can't see anything else i'm supposed to do apart from convert and save?

Thanks very much

ian

Sharpening should be compared at 100% size.

Are you talking about softness only or is colors off also?

When you hit "convert and save" do you save as full JPEG or do you resize?

Do you select image quality 10 or do you choose a lower setting?

Looking at a full sized RAW file and a full sized JPEG file in DPP you will be looking at two different types of sharpness. You need to apply sharpening to the converted JPEG file.

tuttifrutti wrote in post #12175994
Any ideas - I can't see anything else i'm supposed to do apart from convert and save?

What file format are you converting and saving to? Are you retaining the same pixel dimensions or are you resizing?

Thanks for all of your replies folks - as always, much appreciated.

J_R2 wrote in post #12176937
Are you talking about softness only or is colors off also?

When you hit "convert and save" do you save as full JPEG or do you resize?

Do you select image quality 10 or do you choose a lower setting?

Looking at a full sized RAW file and a full sized JPEG file in DPP you will be looking at two different types of sharpness. You need to apply sharpening to the converted JPEG file.

Maybe that's the issue i'm having then. When I look at the RAW file and do my sharpening, what I did was to pull the slider all the way to the right (500) and it appears to create a lovely sharp image in it's raw state.

So, from what you are saying, although i'm looking at my very impressive sharp shot, I will not get anything like that when I convert/save?

If that's the case, then that's a shame because the sharpening (I assume it's the unsharp mask) never even gets close to the crisp/snappy RAW file.

It sounds like when you are viewing the saved jpeg you are likely viewing it at a compressed size through an image viewer, and you "miss" seeing the sharpness. If you open it up in a good viewer and view it full size you should see the sharpness you applied.

But, you can use Convert and Save to resize the jpeg to as smaller more viewable size. Then, check out the image. If need be take the smaller image back through DPP and to a special "output sharpening" and Convert and Save it again.

tuttifrutti wrote in post #12183017
Thanks for all of your replies folks - as always, much appreciated.

Maybe that's the issue i'm having then. When I look at the RAW file and do my sharpening, what I did was to pull the slider all the way to the right (500) and it appears to create a lovely sharp image in it's raw state.

So, from what you are saying, although i'm looking at my very impressive sharp shot, I will not get anything like that when I convert/save?

If that's the case, then that's a shame because the sharpening (I assume it's the unsharp mask) never even gets close to the crisp/snappy RAW file.

Canon recommend using the RAW tool palette for sharpening RAW files. The sharpening algorithm is very different from the one used in the RGB tool palette. Here is what Canon says: " ..the adjustment width of the functions in the [RGB] tool palette is wider than the [RAW] tool palette...You can adjust RAW images with the functions in the [RGB] tool palette. However, for functions other than tone curve adjustment and automatic adjustment, we recommend adjusting RAW images using the same functions available in the [RAW] tool palette."

Here is what I did today: Opened one of the files shot yesterday. Made my adjustments, including adjusting sharpness using Unsharp Mask in the RAW tool palette. Saved as a full size JPEG. Opened the full sized JPEG image in DPP and added a sharpness setting of "80" using the RGB tool palette. The RAW file and the full sized JPEG are almost identical. Only a trained eye will see the difference.

Have you looked at the video tutorials at Canon Digital Learning Center? They have many useful tips. http://www.learn.usa.c​anon.com …rials/dpp_tutor​ials.shtml


PS! Adjust image sharpness with the window view set to 50%, 100% or the setting that suit you best. I set the view to 100%, then look at it at 50%. If it looks good I will use it.


- John