Is this a good idea?

I have a 7d and like to take landscapes and walk around city shot which I find my 7d and 24-105 not to be wide enough. What is a better idea investing the money into a wider lens or using that money and sell my 7d for a full frame 5d mark II or 1ds series. Does anyone have a opinion on this?

Is this a trick question?
If it were me, I'd take the 5D option in the blink of an eye.

Didn't you read the memo?? It says the 7D can't do landscapes

ranger50 wrote in post #12178706
Didn't you read the memo?? It says the 7D can't do landscapes

thats why i want the 5d II but i ws thinking about getting the 10-22 but then when i upgraded that would not work on a 5d or 1d /1ds series camera

Your lenses would be sweet on a 5DII.

The 10-22 would be a nice option, I don't see a reason to upgrade to the 5D II for wider shots...

sbattey wrote in post #12178762
The 10-22 would be a nice option, I don't see a reason to upgrade to the 5D II for wider shots...

Agree. I use my 17-55 on my 7D for Landscapes, and get good results.

5d mark II your lenses are perfect for it!

Downs Photography wrote in post #12178829
5d mark II your lenses are perfect for it!

Except that your 70-200 will no longer act like a "112-320".

You are at a crossroads in your life, Grasshopper. You must choose between the way of the full frame, or the path of cropped sensor.

Either way will get you where you want to go, but each will feel a little differently to you and will have some pluses and some minuses along the way. Crop = more "effective" reach with potentially smaller, lighter lens kit, but not-a so wide-a without another special lens, but generally "faster" handling camera. Full frame = bigger image files to fill up hard disks and memory cards, slower focusing, ultimate fine detail short of the mythical land of Hasselblad or Leaf/Mamiya, overall a potentially larger, heavier, more expensive lens kit if Grasshopper wants to cover the same effective range they had with crop sensor.

Mull these over carefully with your mind. Weigh your wallet and check your credit card balance, Grasshopper. Choose what is most important to you.... Slower shooting and a bit heavier, more expensive kit, but max detail, enlargeability, low light performance, with lotsa that bokeh stuff smeared around on top. Or perhaps Grasshopper would rather do fast shooting with a little smaller, lighter kit, maybe less expensive, but still very fine images, faster AF and 8fps... Like Ninja!

With crop, besides the Canon EF-S 10-22 ($850 US, by the time you get the lens hood that's not included), Grasshopper might also consider Sigma 10-20 (about $490), Tokina 11-16/2.8 ($600), Tokina 12-24/4 ($500), and several others.

Sensei bought Toki 12-24 a couple years ago and still considers it the best value in this class if it's wide enough for Grasshopper. Sensei thinks f4 is fast enuf for UWA, 12-24 Toki is more "L-like" than some actual Ls, and only the Canon is "better", tho not necessarily $350 "better" (2mm wider and a little more flare resistant, but perhaps not as good "build").

With full frame, Grasshopper would not necessarily need to buy another lens, so long as 24mm is wide enough and 200mm doesn't now fall short of Grasshopper's expectations.

If not wide enough, Canon EF20mm f2.8 is about equal to 12mm on crop camera. Or there is 17-40/4L if you prefer a zoom.

If more telephoto is needed, then one option is Canon 300/4L IS. It's a good lens for handheld shooting, reasonably portable, and work well with 1.4X if you wish. (Sensei must tell Grasshopper that 300/4L also works well on crop camera... Where it feels much more powerful!) Alternatively, if Grasshopper prefer zoom, there is 100-400L IS.

Or, if Grasshopper won Lottery and has assistant to carry it, there will be 200-400/4L IS 1.4X Extender lens later this year (might be delayed due to earthquake and tsunami).

Decide, Grasshopper. Decide.

lol....good write up there.....btw amfoto1, I'm not sure you have enuf camera equipment......I think you are missing a few lenses in your collection

I typicaly use my 17-55 on 7D for landscapes.

If I had a 24-105 I would be tempted to go for a 5d2 unless you shoot sports etc too.

Amfoto1

Wow thanks there is alot of great detail in here. This is the hardest decision of my life yet.

Thanks you sensei
Grasshoper

RobDickinson wrote in post #12179331
I typicaly use my 17-55 on 7D for landscapes.

If I had a 24-105 I would be tempted to go for a 5d2 unless you shoot sports etc too.

Ya I do shoot alittle indoor ice hockey but not much. Also I shoot surf so I would get a 2x extender for my 70-200

Let's see ......

" I already have a fantastic camera, but my lens isn't wide enough! "

I always thought the standard advice was " improve on glass before a new body ".

Oddly enough I am sitting here with $3,000 to spend and for a split second thought about another body. The problem is I already own two 7D's and don't need a third one, so I will be shopping for an addition to my lens lineup.

Maybe, just maybe if Canon fixes the 5D and brings the 5D3 up to the level of the 7D in the AF area I will consider one of those. Until then the 7D is a more than capable body, and in some ways superior. Gotta love that AF system!

laselects06 wrote in post #12179367
Ya I do shoot alittle indoor ice hockey but not much. Also I shoot surf so I would get a 2x extender for my 70-200

You wont like what the 2X extender does to the 70-200.

Doing surf, I like the 100-400mm IS L on my 7D.