i hear that Oskar, it's not like the stuff is free, i'm just glad i'm not buying broncolor 
FJLOVE Cream of the Crop 20,883 posts Likes: 82 Joined Nov 2006 Location: barrie ont. ca More info | Apr 09, 2011 03:30 | #46 i hear that Oskar, it's not like the stuff is free, i'm just glad i'm not buying broncolor DILLIGAF about your bicycle or your gear
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kokakaste2 Goldmember 3,546 posts Joined Jan 2008 Location: Luxembourg More info | Apr 09, 2011 03:33 | #47 haha true, or Profoto. So far Elinchrom fits all my needs Oskar (Oscar) - stuff I use- Flickr
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symbolphoto Cream of the Crop 6,628 posts Likes: 18 Joined Nov 2005 Location: Boston, MA More info | Apr 09, 2011 09:23 | #48 snyderman wrote in post #12186336 Paul Buff has mastered the art of keeping demand for its product at levels much higher than it can manage production output at contract manufacturing locations in Asia. This keeps prices artificially inflated and profits high. On the other hand, it also creates backorder situations and long waiting periods for customers wanting to purchase the most basic items from them. Bad business model, to say the least. dave Fixed that for you.
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sigmapi Cream of the Crop 11,204 posts Likes: 6 Joined Apr 2010 Location: Los Angeles More info | Apr 09, 2011 11:09 | #49 symbolphoto wrote in post #12188972 Fixed that for you. Are you serious? When has Elinchrom ever been out of stock for something longer than a week? And ummm, you want to talk about hyping a product before it's even built? And then PCB outsources a new parabolic umbrella design to China. They rip it off of course, then then he cries foul. Dave, you clearly haven't a clue about the realities of these two companies.
Don't try to confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.
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FJLOVE Cream of the Crop 20,883 posts Likes: 82 Joined Nov 2006 Location: barrie ont. ca More info | Apr 09, 2011 12:27 | #50 symbolphoto wrote in post #12188972 Fixed that for you. Are you serious? When has Elinchrom ever been out of stock for something longer than a week? And ummm, you want to talk about hyping a product before it's even built? And then PCB outsources a new parabolic umbrella design to China. They rip it off of course, then then he cries foul. Dave, you clearly haven't a clue about the realities of these two companies. genius Brendan DILLIGAF about your bicycle or your gear
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TMRDesign Cream of the Crop 23,883 posts Likes: 12 Joined Feb 2006 Location: Huntington Station, NY More info | Apr 09, 2011 12:30 | #51 sigma pi wrote in post #12189367 thats right, forgot about that...............but the customer service is great when they screw up and have faulty stuff leaving the factory after you have waited half a year ![]() Kinda like taking a picture. Dont bother to get it right in camera, do it in post Lazy crappy photographer style.Oh man, don't get me started. When I was an engineer in the music industry I always heard the expression "we'll fix it in the mix" and it drove me nuts. The amount of work it took to fix it in post production was huge compared to getting the track right on tape or hard drive. Robert
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