Has anyone ever been a member? I'm wondering what I'd get out of that "community" that I don't already get from this wonderful community on POTN?
wdwpsu Senior Member 625 posts Joined Aug 2007 More info | Apr 10, 2011 21:27 | #1 Has anyone ever been a member? I'm wondering what I'd get out of that "community" that I don't already get from this wonderful community on POTN? Wedding and Event Photography ∙ Orlando, Florida ∙ DSWfoto.com
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tim Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Apr 11, 2011 00:35 | #2 To me it's interesting and invaluable, a forum of real professionals, of which there are about 4 on POTN. It's not as friendly a community, but it's an incredibly valuable resource. I've been a member for 3-4 years, at $100 a year or so, but just one idea I read on there helped my sales technique and has made me an extra $20K or so over the past few years. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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nicksan Man I Like to Fart 24,738 posts Likes: 53 Joined Oct 2006 Location: NYC More info | Apr 11, 2011 10:13 | #3 tim wrote in post #12198090 To me it's interesting and invaluable, a forum of real professionals, of which there are about 4 on POTN. Only 4? Is that 4, counting you?
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picturecrazy soft-hearted weenie-boy 8,565 posts Likes: 780 Joined Jan 2006 Location: Alberta, CANADA More info | Apr 11, 2011 11:14 | #4 I'm still a little lukewarm about d w f. Many threads seem to disintegrate into stupid little fights about useless pointless things. There are some people who talk like they're gods and everyone else is plain retarded. But there are nuggets of good info in there. I just tire really fast wading through all the egos, accusations, and rockstar asskissing to find all the good info. -Lloyd
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amonline Goldmember 3,558 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2006 More info | Apr 11, 2011 13:56 | #5 Best bang for the buck is probably Fred Miranda's wedding section. While it's busy, it can get bicker-y over stupid stuff too. (I think they all do) However, the level of talent over there is well beyond most other free forums. It's actually a serious pro's hang out there... and a few goofballs.
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jcolman Goldmember More info | Apr 11, 2011 13:57 | #6 I get a few good tips, especially about marketing, from DWF.
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nicksan Man I Like to Fart 24,738 posts Likes: 53 Joined Oct 2006 Location: NYC More info | Apr 11, 2011 14:09 | #7 picturecrazy wrote in post #12200158 I just tire really fast wading through all the egos, accusations, and rockstar asskissing to find all the good info. ...and that doesn't happen here?
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Apr 11, 2011 15:14 | #8 I know you're joking. I've found POTN to be one of the most receptive forums out there. Wedding and Event Photography ∙ Orlando, Florida ∙ DSWfoto.com
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nicksan Man I Like to Fart 24,738 posts Likes: 53 Joined Oct 2006 Location: NYC More info | Apr 11, 2011 15:22 | #9 wdwpsu wrote in post #12201578 I know you're joking. I've found POTN to be one of the most receptive forums out there. I can't count the number of times Tim has replied helpfully to someone saying, "I'm shooting my first wedding next Saturday, any advice". I guess I'm wondering for the fee, besides (a perceived) higher quality group of photographers, is there really any more value? (Although I am curious the tip that has increased income by thousands of dollars )Actually, I was only half way joking. You see a lot of ass-kissing in all of these forums, including this one. Folks don't DARE criticize photos from one of the so-called "rock star" photographers no matter how bad some of them are, or try to hold a debate without it becoming a nasty "I have more experience than you do. I know because I just checked out your gallery and your images suck" type thing... I find that funny, but mostly juvenile and very unproductive and makes for a vomit inducing environment.
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RedTiePhotography Goldmember 3,575 posts Likes: 1 Joined Nov 2009 Location: San Diego More info | Apr 11, 2011 15:47 | #10 Pay for a month and make your own decision. I think its $12 or something. See if you find it helpful. Bryan
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amonline Goldmember 3,558 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jul 2006 More info | Apr 11, 2011 15:50 | #11 Red Tie Photography wrote in post #12201793 Pay for a month and make your own decision. I think its $12 or something. See if you find it helpful. That's what I did. I stayed about 60 days. Not enough there to justify long-term IMO. It's just like any other forum in the long run... except you pay to read it.
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jonwhite Goldmember 1,279 posts Joined Jan 2007 More info | Apr 11, 2011 16:26 | #12 I've been a member there for nearly 4 years and each time my renewal has come up I have argued with myself whether its worth renewing. I think there's some real gems of info on there but its never felt like home so consequently I don't post there very often or read it as much as I should compared to this place and a few other forums I hang in. Wedding Portfolio Website
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jcolman Goldmember More info | Apr 11, 2011 19:57 | #13 bnlearle wrote in post #12202226 This. While I'm not on DWF anymore, this is the major difference. If you want a forum where you will bounce your ideas and images off of a lot of hobby photographers who get paid a few times a year and don't make a living from photography, mixed in with a small number of legit part timers, and an even smaller number (Tim's number, four, sounds about right) of full time pros who make their entire living off of photography, then POTN is the place for you. But if you want to bounce your ideas and images around and get advice from pros who are running full time businesses making their entire living off of photography (something most photographers who want to get paid for photography are aspiring to), then DWF is probably a good place for you. Disclaimer, I mean no disrespect in my definition of POTN. I'm just being accurate. I agree with everything you say.
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Apr 11, 2011 21:21 | #14 bnlearle wrote in post #12202226 This. While I'm not on DWF anymore, this is the major difference. If you want a forum where you will bounce your ideas and images off of a lot of hobby photographers who get paid a few times a year and don't make a living from photography, mixed in with a small number of legit part timers, and an even smaller number (Tim's number, four, sounds about right) of full time pros who make their entire living off of photography, then POTN is the place for you. But if you want to bounce your ideas and images around and get advice from pros who are running full time businesses making their entire living off of photography (something most photographers who want to get paid for photography are aspiring to), then DWF is probably a good place for you. Disclaimer, I mean no disrespect in my definition of POTN. I'm just being accurate. _______________ San Diego Wedding Photographer (blog) the Raddest Photo Trip Ever!!! Come on the next one Dec 1st-14th 2011!!!!! Agree, also, except I'm still a member. Canon Shooter and PSCS5 on a PC.
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tim Light Bringer 51,010 posts Likes: 375 Joined Nov 2004 Location: Wellington, New Zealand More info | Apr 12, 2011 00:28 | #15 nicksan wrote in post #12199787 Only 4? Is that 4, counting you? Maybe more than 4, maybe a dozen, but the high level is higher there, and the average is much higher. It's a forum by professionals, for professionals. Professional wedding photographer, solution architect and general technical guy with multiple Amazon Web Services certifications.
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